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What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? #798868
09/11/10 07:10 PM 09/11/10 07:10 PM
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Just got the car running and it is loud what insert do you guys recommend? The car chemistry ones or dyna tech cone ones? Thanks Jason

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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: haddixj] #798869
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Neither, just attach mufflers to the collectors. I've never heard anything good about those inserts.

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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: ProSport] #798870
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if you have a 3" collector, try putting a 2" outside dia. pipe in the collector after you install the choker, uh, i mean the insert. i can't stand those things!!!!!
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: haddixj] #798871
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No comment on those things
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: tjmarcus1] #798872
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The collector exits out the fender so mufflers are out of the question the car sits a few inchs off the ground so inserts are the only option oh and there 4 inch

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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: haddixj] #798873
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A stainless steel hootie valve works good! Race cars are supposed to have open headers! Old School all the way!
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: DoubleD] #798874
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What is a hootie valve

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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: haddixj] #798875
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The collector exits out the fender so mufflers are out of the question the car sits a few inchs off the ground so inserts are the only option oh and there 4 inch

when i said 3", that was just for reference. if you have a 4" collector, you obviously want a 4" collector. with the insert, you will have about 3"
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: tjmarcus1] #798876
09/12/10 12:07 AM 09/12/10 12:07 AM
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The collector exits out the fender so mufflers are out of the question the car sits a few inchs off the ground so inserts are the only option oh and there 4 inch

when i said 3", that was just for reference. if you have a 4" collector, you obviously want a 4" collector. with the insert, you will have about 3"



Will these inserts work to quiet the car for street driving? I was really hoping to use them for that! I planned my street exhaust hookup around using them.
What is the main issue?


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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #798877
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dynatech makes a set that I have seen used. They didnt make my buddies car quite enough so he wrapped them with some muffler packing and the got a lot better
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: joshking440] #798878
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dynatech makes a set that I have seen used. They didnt make my buddies car quite enough so he wrapped them with some muffler packing and the got a lot better


Well I guess I can experiment. I thought they were like the baffles used in boat headers, and would get me by.
Thanks,
Mark


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1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #798879
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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #798880
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Are those preferred over the Car Chemistry?
Unfortunately that is what I have now.
Thanks for the link,
Mark


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1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
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Not familiar with the car chemistry inserts....if the header exits the fender, do you have the length to do the car chemistry style?
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: joshking440] #798882
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My exhaust is side exit rear, in front of the wheel openings. It's close to the floor, and merges to ovalized for ground clearance.
The Car Chemistry inserts slide into the header collectors.
I really don't have room for mufflers.

http://www.carchemistry.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=20


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1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019
Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: Hemi Allstate] #798883
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Will these inserts work to quiet the car for street driving?

Yes, it will take at least 2 hours for permanent hearing loss, instead of 10 minutes.

What they don't do:
"have no effect on power"
"effectively quiet open exhaust"

What they do best:
transfer money from your bank to theirs

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Re: What insert do you guys recommend for a collector? [Re: polyspheric] #798884
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Yes, it will take at least 2 hours for permanent hearing loss, instead of 10 minutes.

What they don't do:
"have no effect on power"
"effectively quiet open exhaust"

What they do best:
transfer money from your bank to theirs



Since they have already done what they do best,and I am not looking to gain power. Hopefully, I can modify the baffles to lower the dbs to an acceptable level.
If not, I will have to be content to set off car alarms, and be equally as irritating as the big sub woofer gang. Maybe get a nod and smile from the loud pipes save lives crowd!!
Does anyone have experience with mods to these? Successful or otherwise would be of some help.
I have my exhaust system finished and ceramic coated, so I am committed to using these for some time.
Thanks,
Mark


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1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

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