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This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. #793471
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As i said in a earlier post that I had taken the new converter out and sent it back to Jason at Quickdraw to have it re stalled a little higher, so I put the lod TCI in to make a few run's just for a comparison but right off the bat the front seal started to leak, so I pulled it back out to replace the seal and decided to just give up on my plan and decided to just wait for the converter to come back,,so while it was out and laying under the car on the jack I attempted to put the new seal in but was having trouble getting it started so I just pulled the tranny out from under the car and thats when I found it,,,,a crack half way around the case where the bellhousing mold's into the main gear case you have got to be kidding me,, now I have to build another tranny between now and Norwalk and hope I do it right so their aren't any issues,,just what I wanted to do.

here's the first pic.


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Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: dartman366] #793472
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next pic. has this happened to anyone else?


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Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: dartman366] #793473
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too bad you could not have it machined for an ultra bell.darn good thing you found it!

Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: dartman366] #793474
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Be thankful, that you found it before a catastrophe. That failing on the track could have been life threatening.
However I do understand the frustration.
Jamie

Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: blownzoom440] #793475
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too bad you could not have it machined for an ultra bell.darn good thing you found it!



Bill like stated above check pricing for an ultrabell from summit. If its cracked in front of the pump you are good to go and saved a lot of work. Cutting the stock bell off was the hardest part of the job. all you would need is a little grinding and some longer grade 8 pump bolts.


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Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: pittsburghracer] #793476
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Bill I have never seen that on a trans before. So do you have another case sitting there that you can transfer in the insides of that one to and get it going? Is there anything you need that maybe I can help you with? Just let me know and I hope you do get it ready for Norwalk!!


Russ

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Wow they cost more than I remember.
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727 j.w.92458 395 dollars on sale
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Summit 336.00 est shipping date 9-24-2010


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Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: dartman366] #793478
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Sorry to here that Bill

But im glad you caught it in the garge rather than at the track

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sorry to read and see that but like others have said better to find that kind of trouble before it ends up real bad..

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It happened to me a few years ago in a 904, 3 days befor pinks at milan. thrashed to get a new case put it all back together had trans problems ever since.

I ordered a new trans from Cope once I got the new trans i pulled the old one a part found the main shaft had a slight wow in it. dont know how or why bit check that out as well.


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Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: Kiddart] #793481
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Well I sent you a PM before I seen this post..call if you need some help..

Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: Jamie340] #793482
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Be thankful, that you found it before a catastrophe. That failing on the track could have been life threatening.
However I do understand the frustration.
Jamie


Your telling me,,it was just a stroke of luck that I found it, yes I have another case and will start tomorrow getting it prepped to transferr my good part's over to it,,, the funny thing is it appears that it has been cracked this way for some time and what ever kept it from dumping it's guts is beyond me.


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what ever kept it from dumping it's guts is beyond me.




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Wow. I never saw that before, and hope I don't see it again. I guess 40 year old parts have lots of time to grow cracks. More of a pain and labor than cost, since you are doing it yourself and have another case. I am thinking the going rate for a 727 core case might be $100-$150, basically what you can get a complete core transmission for.

Looking at the cost of the JW Ultrabell, it doesn't seem to make sense when putting a 727 on a Mopar big or small block. But it would eliminate the need for the flexplate shield, but not the trans shield.


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We've had that problem before in the truck, went to an ultrabell and no problems since.

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Let me know if I can be of any help.



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Let me know if I can be of any help.





that's funny right there.


















sorry Bill just couldn't help myself.


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Let me know if I can be of any help.





that's funny right there.


















sorry Bill just couldn't help myself.




I am trying not to laugh realy...........poor bill

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Had the same thing happen here..

Had a bad vibration in the car that no one could find. The trans was out and getting ready to go back in and I was using a screw driver to scrape some junk off of it and found it. We had this vibration for 2+ months before that..


Re: This totally stink's,,lot's of work ahead of me. [Re: DartMan380] #793490
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Had the same thing happen here..

Had a bad vibration in the car that no one could find. The trans was out and getting ready to go back in and I was using a screw driver to scrape some junk off of it and found it. We had this vibration for 2+ months before that..




funny you should say that, I had a vibration that mysteriously went away early in the season at CC Events @ National trails, but I was also fighting rocker issues then too.


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