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Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: BradH] #776985 08/19/10 02:29 PM 08/19/10 02:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,037 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,037 Oregon	Quote: Quote: Bullet Roller ~272 @ .050, ~.700 lift, 108 LSA ... Just supposed to be a pump gas street/strip deal, I think with more emphasis on street. Anybody besides me look at those two statements above and chuckle a bit? Yep. The 427 inch small block that I just finished up has a 236 @ 050 roller cam in it.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: AndyF] #776986 08/19/10 02:41 PM 08/19/10 02:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 I Live Here
Moparnut426 I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	My "street" 408 has comps CRSZRR-10 solid roller, and its 248/254 @50, and They wanted me to stick a bigger one in it. I spoke to Ryan, and Brian both, Brian wanted me to have a custom cam with 274 @50 with over 600 lift. Then we talked and I told him this is a street car 85% of the time. We went with this on instead, so This cam would be GNARLEY I would think. But I sure would like it. Kasey

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: Moparnut426] #776987 08/19/10 03:19 PM 08/19/10 03:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 pro stock
72demon416 pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	I'm thinking I might win the award for having the meanest idle @ the ice cream stand though LOL. It's going to sound awesome!!!!!!

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 72demon416] #776988 08/19/10 03:49 PM 08/19/10 03:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland mafo super stock
mafo super stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland	always nice to read your posts, now can we build a 1000 hp n/a 400 incher ? -65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: RyanJ] #776989 08/19/10 04:28 PM 08/19/10 04:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 3 north battleford sask 9 93reefblue member
93reefblue member 9 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 3 north battleford sask	"Just supposed to be a pump gas street/strip deal, I think with more emphasis on street. " if street means quiet hiway at night(WOT)??!!YUP

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 93reefblue] #776990 08/19/10 08:11 PM 08/19/10 08:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 941 Texas, USA ChrgrCuda super stock
ChrgrCuda super stock Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 941 Texas, USA	Ryan, you did such a good job on my small block Eddy heads, intake and cam that I ordered my Big Block stuff from you instead of the mainstream. I appreciate your candidness and you saved me money by your advice compared to others. I'm really looking forward to my stroker big block's results after you work those heads. But yeah, I agree when it comes to small blocks I think they are just too much fun! 68 Cuda Notchback [Email]10.86@120[/Email] 69 Charger R/T 440/505 2009 Challenger SRT8

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: AndyF] #776991 08/19/10 08:20 PM 08/19/10 08:20 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Yep. The 427 inch small block that I just finished up has a 236 @ 050 roller cam in it. Typical Freudian undercompensation.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: tubtar] #776992 08/19/10 11:47 PM 08/19/10 11:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,745 Maryland 340_Dart top fuel
340_Dart top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,745 Maryland	AndyF, what kind of cylinder pressure does that 427 have with such a small cam? Rick, that 440 will definately make some rumble under the hood of your demon. Should easily go low 10's at the track, and even in the 9's if you can get it to hook! What did the current 416 you have in the car do performance wise? ( ET and mph and weight) -Andy

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: tubtar] #776993 08/19/10 11:53 PM 08/19/10 11:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc E emarine01 master
emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Good reading material Thankx

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 340_Dart] #776994 08/20/10 12:25 AM 08/20/10 12:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,037 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,037 Oregon	Quote: AndyF, what kind of cylinder pressure does that 427 have with such a small cam? I think it was 180 psi. It is a pump gas street motor. A 236 at 50 roller isn't really a small cam for 427 inches. Lots of crate motors use cams that are smaller than that. Chevy puts a 211 at 050 cam in the 502 crate motor for example. The car that the 427 is in goes 150+ mph so it is making plenty of power. Idles at 800 rpm which is nice. Last edited by AndyF; 08/20/10 12:28 AM.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 340_Dart] #776995 08/20/10 12:57 AM 08/20/10 12:57 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 pro stock
72demon416 pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Andy, there is lots of unknowns with my car. I've never weighed it but it's got to be 3400/3500 lbs- I haven't taken ANY weight out so it's got that against it. I never made it to the track before I grenaded it but the night I hurt the motor I was making some passes out on the highway with a freinds passport. Now I know a lot of people don't put a lot of stock in the results of those things but this one was consistantly showing 3 mph slow and ET was within a 10'th of having been tried in a car that does run at the track- so with that in mind my car cars best was 12.1 @ 119.3( & it seems like it's always poor air here for performance). I was having a hell of a time to get it out of the hole without bogging or blowing the tires away- it was like a on/off switch. The track will certainly show something more realistic of it's potential-I would think mid to high tens given it's obescity. Someday I'll get there... but in the meantime it should be a lot of fun to tool around town in I see youv'e caught the speed bug again with your Dart

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: RyanJ] #776996 08/20/10 11:02 AM 08/20/10 11:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan	Good reading, thanks Ryan. The M1 intakes mostly seem to be designed for a 340. Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 72demon416] #776997 08/20/10 12:19 PM 08/20/10 12:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA RyanJ OP moparts member
RyanJ OP moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA	Quote: I'm thinking I might win the award for having the meanest idle @ the ice cream stand though LOL. It's going to sound awesome!!!!!! It does sounds good.... even though it is low compression, it definitely does not sound like a 340... you know it's a bit more than that when you hear it. Can't wait to see how those Goodyear Radials hook up LOL.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: RyanJ] #776998 08/20/10 01:24 PM 08/20/10 01:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia Ian super stock
Ian super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,044 Victoria, Australia	hey ryan ,just a bit of topic ,with your turbo motor made good power aspirated mild comp good heads small cam ,have you done many big heads small cam engines with as good results .thanks 1.37 60 ft [email]6.0@113[/email] [email]9.57@141[/email] 408 glide 3550lbs new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xvq3ZObywQE

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: Ian] #776999 08/20/10 06:15 PM 08/20/10 06:15 PM
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93reefblue member 9 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 3 north battleford sask	ryan unless i missed it .. what is the expected gains going from the m1 to indy intake. thanks, andy h Last edited by 93reefblue; 08/20/10 06:40 PM.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 93reefblue] #777000 08/20/10 09:49 PM 08/20/10 09:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA RyanJ OP moparts member
RyanJ OP moparts member Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,547 State College, PA	I'm sure it would put at least 30-40 FT lbs in it. I hav'nt done alot of big head motors with real small cams, that 242 I had in my W9 turbo motor was smallest cam I've ever dynoed.

Re: 440 W5 Dyno Session [Re: 72demon416] #777001 08/20/10 09:51 PM 08/20/10 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana W5Duster436 master
W5Duster436 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,084 Indiana	Quote: Well, I have to tip my hat to Ryan, I am extremely pleased with his personal service and professionalism- I'm sure as most people on this board already know he is a major asset to all us small block Mopar guys. Shady Dell has been simply excellent to deal with, I don't think it's very often you'll get your engine builder to reply to your (many)emails when he's at home on the couch trying to relax after working on this crap all day. So..thanks Ryan. (does this advertising campaign earn me any discounts LOL) I am very pleased with the results...it made 40-60 hp more than I was really expecting given it's shortcomings that I imposed. Yes, it is probably the worst intake for power but I had used it because I am not excited about cutting my hood for carb/air cleaner clearance and the M1 is quite a bit lower than the Indy. We'll see- maybe there will be a Indy on there yet someday... This is supposed to be a "semi" stock appearing pump gas deal so for not running a mechanical water pump, vac pump, having only moderate compression and a poor intake think it is pretty good results. Awesome report. I think I am the other lucky guy with the small chamber heads but I think mine liked 39 timing. I hope to get back up there in the spring at least to upgrade mine to your specs. Ryan, great work as usual! '70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone) '71 Dodge D100 '70 Dodge W100

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