Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: TMP66]
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08/02/10 08:22 AM
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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.
The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.
The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.
Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.
"Old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm, every time!" East Central Director / Chrysler Power Magazine www.reasbeckracing.webs.com
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: Steve1118]
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Well said Steve. I agree with you, don't fix it if it ain't broke... Quote:
Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.
The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.
The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.
Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.
Jody Aberts
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: Steve1118]
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08/02/10 09:28 AM
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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.
The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.
The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.
Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.
well put
Casey
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: 9 Sec Phill]
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08/02/10 09:32 AM
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They are afraid of getting there azzes kicked..This way they know a big block will win no matter how slow it is.
Well Said Phil
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
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08/02/10 10:08 AM
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Just wondering why...It seems every nostalgia super stock association only allows the use of big blocks. You would think if they stuck to the current rules on vehicle years and just allowed small block combinations that were availiable, they could get more interest and Participation.
How many factory Super Stock packages came from the factory with a small block?
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: Steve1118]
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08/02/10 12:04 PM
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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.
The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.
The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.
Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.
ditto
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: Steve1118]
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08/02/10 03:34 PM
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... the factory "wars" of the sixties... was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.
That's the gist of it: Super Stock during that era on the drag strip was ruled by big blocks. Small blocks were basically an afterthought for the budget-minded.
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: emarine01]
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08/02/10 04:39 PM
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any car even your granny's slant 6 wagon when changed to meet the rules could be a S/S class racer. I think you will find all the NSS cars to be a factory built as a race package. There is a difference
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Re: N/SS...why no smallblocks?
[Re: dannysbee]
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Jenkins Chevy II was an A/Stocker, not a SS car. Besides, it was beaten by Jere Stahl's A/S Hemi Belvedere three of the four NHRA events that existed in 1966. The only reason Jere Stahl didn't win the Winternationals, the fourth NHRA event is because the car hadn't been competed at that time.
Do your homework......
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