N/SS...why no smallblocks?

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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.

The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.

The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.

Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.

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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.

The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.

The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.

Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.

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well put

Casey

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They are afraid of getting there azzes kicked..This way they know a big block will win no matter how slow it is.

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Well Said Phil

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Just wondering why...It seems every nostalgia super stock association only allows the use of big blocks. You would think if they stuck to the current rules on vehicle years and just allowed small block combinations that were availiable, they could get more interest and Participation.

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How many factory Super Stock packages came from the factory with a small block?

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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me, we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields. There is literally more than I can attend.

The reason for the rule is that NSS racing is designed to re-create the factory "wars" of the sixties. That was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.

The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality. Those cars are not unique in local racing today. There's nothing wrong with that, but it ain't NSS racing the way it was. Most NSS races are index races (here most have a dial that ends in zero, with no change in dial.

Like I say, popularity and participation are not a problem with the way things are set up now, so don't expect it to change anytime soon.

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ditto

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... the factory "wars" of the sixties... was totally done with big cars, and big blocks. The exception to the big cars were some of the factory SS packages....i.e. Hemi Darts & Cudas, AMX SS packages, and the Ford CJ deals.

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maybe they can't afford the oil dry.

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I walked the entire length of all 4 lanes at that track moments after Bob Reed crashed. There is no rubber on the track anywhere. At best a slight haze that could been seen clear thru showing the concrete. Maybe the professional cars Top fuel and funny car can lay down enough to stick with all those wings and downforce they make. My sneakers didn't even stick to the track anywhere I stepped. At ATCO the track surface is so sticky they get pulled off even at the finish line.

my attempt moments after the track had been sprayed

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Please tell me that the bottom pic is as close to the wall as you got.
That doesn't look like any kind of fun.

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Participation and interest are not a problem. Believe me , we have races every other week in the northeast with 40-50 car fields There is literally more than I can attend.

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When I mentioned participation and interest, I look at it from the perspective of living west of the continental divide. Not nearly the amount of events or number of associations like back east and in the midwest.

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The fear, and I share it, is that once you let small blocks/pony cars in, you pretty much have destroyed the uniqueness of it. NSS cars are not bracket cars...they are unique. Once you start with small block Camaros, Dusters, etc., then you've opened it up to regular bracket guys with a bracket mentality.

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Not sure exactally what a "bracket mentality" is.

NSS cars, if built to the limit of rules of most associations (Lexan windows, liberal use of fiberglass, oversized 'factory' hood scoops, intake & carb combos that never existed for certain year vehicles, aluminum heads, unlimited C.I.) combined with lack of real a real class structure other than pick your class based on ET, they are are more bracket car than real super stocker.

If the cars are restricted by year and visual appearance to resemble S/S cars or even Jr. stockers of the past to include big car/small car small block combos it would make the series even more unique and like it really was back in the day.
Just my and thinking a little outside the current box.

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I'd be willing to wager that if historical lower SS class cars came, as in wearing their period paint schemes and equipment, they'd be popular. I would love to see even the real/vintage lower Stock class cars, like the '55-'57 Chevys, run. Those were great days. I really don't even care about their ETs that much, just to see them run again.
No elimination ladder, just bring the old cars out and make a few passes, display, visit with the "real" guys you'd invite, and keep the history alive and correct.

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With the expecption of just making passes. Racers want to race. Dial-in and maybe ladder the cars first round with a mix of ET ranges and vehicle makes.
I think this could be a fun deal and an affordable addition.