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Harsh drive engagement? #737819
07/01/10 02:07 AM
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65 valiant with a 78 904 transmission. Always harsh and clunk noise when putting into drive...tried adjusting the idle and helped a little but the engine almost stalls due to the low idle when at stop lights.
Clunks a little bit in reverse too.
UJoints are fairly new.
Tranmission was rebuilt recently and shifts perfectly, yet still harsh drive engagement.
Any ideas?

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Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737820
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65 valiant with a 78 904 transmission. Always harsh and clunk noise when putting into drive...tried adjusting the idle and helped a little but the engine almost stalls due to the low idle when at stop lights.
Clunks a little bit in reverse too.
UJoints are fairly new.
Tranmission was rebuilt recently and shifts perfectly, yet still harsh drive engagement.
Any ideas?




What sort of rear axle?

Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: Pat_Whalen] #737821
07/01/10 04:58 AM
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What is the idle speed and what torque convertor are you using?


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Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737822
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When these cars were new in 64/5/6/etc. many owners, including myself, returned our cars to the dealer with this complaint...when new, or correctly rebuilt these transmissions have a very positive shift, that trait is part of what makes them last a lifetime. Slow easy shifting wears things out. my2cents

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Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: MO_PA] #737823
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7 1/4 rear axle, idle set at 950/900, and a stock mopar torque converter, dont know the stall but for a 318/904 from 78 according to my mechanic.

Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737824
07/02/10 02:05 PM
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If it's a 12" convertor. They are tight. Tight means harsh engagement. This is not to say there is not a problem with your transmission or it can not be fixed by something in your transmission but I've swapped from 12 to 11 before and the engagement was much softer.


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Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737825
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7 idle set at 950/900, =


Is that idle in gear or idle in park/neutral.

Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 540challenger] #737826
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In park the idle is a little higher...maybe 950/1000, and I adjusted the idle so in drive it is at 800.
Looks to be the lowest it will go without stalling when at a light. It actually helped a little with the engagement being harsh going from neutral to drive or park to drive.
I start the car in neutral now as I heard this helps the transmission fluid flow when starting the car cold.

Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737827
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Always harsh and clunk noise when putting into drive. Clunks a little bit in reverse too.
Any ideas?


ring/pinion (excessive) backlash


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Re: Harsh drive engagement? [Re: 65Valiant] #737828
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In park the idle is a little higher...maybe 950/1000, and I adjusted the idle so in drive it is at 800.





That's a lot higher than the normal 550-650, if you have to run it that high to keep from stalling there's a problem with the tuneup.


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