Herb McCandless oiling tips for big block/Hemi
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This piece was written by Herb McC & is at least 10 years old-is it still good information? He was kind enough to answer oiling questions over the phone when I was rebuilding my small block stroker in the early '90s, and sent me oiling info on both small blocks and B/RB/Hemi engines. He's a pretty cool guy in my book.
OIL SYSTEMS B-RB-HEMI
McCandless Performance has many years of experience and has spent many hours on the Chrysler B-RB-Hemi motors. We have put together a list of suggested improvements for your oil system which can be made at little or no cost to you. It is very important that you follow these instructions exactly as they are described to you in the following report. Please be sure and call us if you have any questions at all on the procedures that are mentioned.
Remove all five main caps. With an 8-10” 9/32 drill bit drill the oil passages from the top of the main saddle to the lifter galley on the passenger side of the block to 9/32. Do not drill passages to the cam. Do not restrict the oil to the rockers. If you run a solid or roller lifter camshaft you should cut oil off to the lifters on the drivers side of the block. This can be done by following these instructions.
On the rear of the block, remove the pipe plug on the drivers side of the block next to the camshaft. You will need a 19/32 freeze plug. Install the 19/32 plug into the oil galley on the drivers side of the block. Drive the plug into the block about 1 1/4 inches or until you can see the passage coming across the back of the block that feeds the oil to the drivers side galley. Clean and install pipe plug. Oil is now cut off to the lifters on the drivers side of the block. The only way to cut oil off to the passenger side is by installing sleeves in each lifter.
In a street motor we highly recommend a Milodon #30930 pan and a street Hemi size pickup (1/2 inch pipe). The block must be re-drilled and tapped to 1/2” pipe. There is a standard size pickup available for this pan but why put a high volume oil pump on the motor and not increase the oil available to the pump? Once all passages are drilled, completely clean the block very thoroughly. We use a Milodon #34010 brush kit to clean all the oil passages and it works very well.
On a race motor the only system that we recommend is the Milodon dual line system. This has been the standard of the industry system on the motors for years. The dual line Milodon is very expensive but not near as costly as the price to replace a good race motor. Fix it right the first time.
We do not recommend using a stock pan that has been deepened. This type of pan runs out of oil under acceleration and deceleration. This can cause spun bearings and broken rods and also causes a costly repair bill.
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Re: Herb McCandless oiling tips for big block/Hemi
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Sure, on the small block stuff! Should the passenger side on the R/B roller cam also be plugged, or is it just the drivers side? Jeff
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Re: Herb McCandless oiling tips for big block/Hemi
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Is this a NO NO with a hyd. Roller? Or is this still an excellent mod for even a Hydraulic type roller set up? Btw thanks also for an excellent tech tip !
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You can't block the oil to the lifter galley and use hydraulic tappets, roller or flat.
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Thanks Guys for the advice. I love a good thread like this one ..Very Informative !! JEFF
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Re: Herb McCandless oiling tips for big block/Hemi
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Another tip when drilling for 1/2" pick up. Before drilling, oval the hole with a die grinder, away from the thinnest side of the pick up boss. This will move the hole center line so after drilling and tapping, there will be almost as much meat around the tube as the 3/8" pick up had. This will also allow for a little more clearance grinding when using a stroker crank.
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i've never tried it that way. i don't like drill bits and engine blocks very close to each other in my shop. i use a bridgeport to make the hole for the 1/2" pickup. an endmill will move the hole exactly where it needs to be. i also mill to the bottom of the poassage, radius the turn and open the other end to match the modifications that i make to the oil pump. among other things, LOL>.
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Re: Herb McCandless oiling tips for big block/Hemi
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no, it's not required. if you do the other oiling mods to your block and blueprint the pump, oil volume and pressure won't be a problem.
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I am a novice to engine biulding. What is the purpose of blocking off the oil to the driver side galley. My machinist was speaking of this today relating to small blocks. Does it apply there too? Also what's the purpose of the oil bypass pipe procedure in the lifter valley on a SB? Good thread.
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In addition, blocking off the lifter galleys helps if you bend a push rod or a rocker adjuster backs off and a lifter jumps out, your oil pressure will not drop to zero.
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blocking off the oil to the driver's side is just a way to direct the oil pressure back to the main bearings rather than have it leak away around 8 lifters that don't need it.
For high perf street motors I usually block off the driver gallery but then drill a small hole (0.090) or so in the plug so that oil still flows, but at a reduced rate. I just haven't gotten comfortable with the idea of completely blocking off the lifter gallery on a street car.
do you have a good source for the plugs to do that, i have about 5 left and none to be found in south florida at all??? know of a place where i can order them?
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In addition, blocking off the lifter galleys helps if you bend a push rod or a rocker adjuster backs off and a lifter jumps out, your oil pressure will not drop to zero.
that's if your luck enough for it to happen on that side of the block, LOL.
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okay, i guess nobody wants to share their source for the soft plugs. Hmmm.
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i was looking for the 19/32. i think i tried a 37/64 in the last block and it was too loose to stay put. i guess i could alway's just run a ream through the hole and step up in size just slightly. thanks for the info. Andy made it sound like the 19/32 were plentiful. i was hoping he would share his source. that might make things easier for people.
i am also a believer in running the plug as an orifice, instead of completely blocking it off. it sends more pressure where it's needed during start-up and then fills the lifter gallery for some lubrication there too.
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Expansion plugs link.Look at www.motormite.comThen click Dorman products. Here are the exact plugs you need: 19/32" (0.59375") Dorman #555-009 And for the 727/904 Speedo plug 1-49/64" Dorman #555-036 I got mine at Advance Auto Parts. Others should also carry them. John
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Hey Jim, I've got 9 of em. I can drop a couple in the mail if you'd like. Max
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Hey Jim, I've got 9 of em. I can drop a couple in the mail if you'd like. Max
well, i guess i see where i rate...
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I know Dram that was an oversight. but you already have some.But as you have 5, but if you'd like, I'll mail you one giving you six, then I'll give Jim 2, and I'll have six. That's fair ain't it (except to Jim) "Max"
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I know Dram that was an oversight. but you already have some.But as you have 5, but if you'd like, I'll mail you one giving you six, then I'll give Jim 2, and I'll have six. That's fair ain't it (except to Jim) "Max"
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You are more than welcome. Max
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why do you need a 9-10 inch drill bit???
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i use a reamer also. i would suggest you don't use a drill bit. bad things can happen.
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