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Street roller cams #696732 05/12/10 10:19 PM 05/12/10 10:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man OP Too Many Posts
383man OP Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Just curious if any of the people who run rollers in street cars use the street roller cams that use less spring pressure then race rollers ?? Thinking about using a roller in my next eng for my 63 but I do drive it alot on the street. Ron Last edited by 383man; 05/13/10 12:59 AM.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696733 05/12/10 10:26 PM 05/12/10 10:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Run a Hydraulic roller grind, but use solid roller lifters. Or there are various street grinds as well, depending on how wild you're looking to go. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696734 05/12/10 11:04 PM 05/12/10 11:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,314 Prospect, PA	200#/500# is not uncommon on street designed solid rollers.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696735 05/12/10 11:17 PM 05/12/10 11:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,838 Central Missouri Fort Leonard... mopar65 master
mopar65 master Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,838 Central Missouri Fort Leonard...	Hi Ron i have a used comp solid street roller i would sell cheep. please pm me if you are interested.OK back to your question. This will be my first time using a solid roller cam my self. so i don't have much info to give you. but i will be trying a comp solid roller in my 73 440 dart soon. I plan on driving it on the street once in a while and my cam is 264 @ 0.50 and 634 lift with my 1.6 roller rockers. every body i talk to says i will love the roller so we will see.mopar65 3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696736 05/12/10 11:27 PM 05/12/10 11:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,042 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,042 Oregon	I would use a street roller for a street car. Just seems like a good idea to me.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: Triple Threat] #696737 05/12/10 11:32 PM 05/12/10 11:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: Run a Hydraulic roller grind, but use solid roller lifters. WHY?????

Re: Street roller cams [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #696738 05/13/10 12:30 AM 05/13/10 12:30 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Ron, Ive talked to Dwayne at length about this on a couple occasions. He says the -5 Comp lobes are very very reliable in a real street driven application. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #696739 05/13/10 04:16 AM 05/13/10 04:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Alberta, Can JUST_N_TIME enthusiast
JUST_N_TIME enthusiast Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Alberta, Can	requires less spring pressures than a solid grind to achieve chances of float and lash is in the �.006 range - less noise.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: JUST_N_TIME] #696740 05/13/10 05:17 AM 05/13/10 05:17 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	i have been running a smallblock with a comp XE solid roller for a few years on the street and no problems at all, and before that i had a diferent solid roller but much wilder that worked for a few years of summer daily driving including some pretty long drives and alot of 7500+rpm shifts and that one lost alitle spring preasure during the last summer, but none of them realy gave me any trouble being driven on the street for alot of time and both those rollercams have been at cruisenights basicly being at idle for about 8 hours at 8-900rpms with no bad effects that i have noticed and i dont think a modern solid roller with .016-.018 lash makes enough noice from the lash to realy be anoying to anyone

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696741 05/13/10 08:02 AM 05/13/10 08:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	I run a roller on the street but I don't drive my car much. The thing you want to avoid is a lot of idling. I like the perfomrance of the roller cam. I am running .700 lift and if I remember correctly 240# of seat pressure. What I don't like about the cam is the bronze from the distributor gear in the oil and additional mantenance.

Re: Street roller cams [Re: 383man] #696742 05/13/10 01:52 PM 05/13/10 01:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	My cam is about as big as Isky generally uses in a daily driver situation and has served me well for over five years. After my 9-sec pass, I decided to change out the springs and the old ones were somewhere around 220-230 on the seat and 480 open and I drive it a lot and had several passes at that time. I swapped to a stouter spring and it`s still goin strong w/240-250 seat and 540+ open. I`m not the consertavite type and am of the "bigger is better" theory and so far have proven it can work well. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Street roller cams [Re: Thumperdart] #696743 05/13/10 03:16 PM 05/13/10 03:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	Quote: My cam is about as big as Isky generally uses in a daily driver situation and has served me well for over five years. After my 9-sec pass, I decided to change out the springs and the old ones were somewhere around 220-230 on the seat and 480 open and I drive it a lot and had several passes at that time. I swapped to a stouter spring and it`s still goin strong w/240-250 seat and 540+ open. I`m not the consertavite type and am of the "bigger is better" theory and so far have proven it can work well. Just curious what the specs of your cam is??

Re: Street roller cams [Re: MIKES_DUSTER] #696744 05/13/10 03:26 PM 05/13/10 03:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	It`s a custom grind I came up with and it`s .680-.660 lift w/275-280 dur @.050 ground on a 108 lobe center. I don`t have the cam card handy to fully detail it but it`s just a bit different than their shelf grinds and VERY streetable. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Street roller cams [Re: Thumperdart] #696745 05/13/10 03:42 PM 05/13/10 03:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former... MIKES_DUSTER master
MIKES_DUSTER master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,146 Now - Port Orange,Fla. Former...	NICE!!!!!!!

Re: Street roller cams [Re: Von] #696746 05/13/10 04:03 PM 05/13/10 04:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,846 S.E. Michigan	Quote: Ron, Ive talked to Dwayne at length about this on a couple occasions. He says the -5 Comp lobes are very very reliable in a real street driven application. And Dwayne is right. I got my -5 grind from PRH and it has been very good. The first design street rollers are nice grinds too, though, and worth checking out if a guy wants to buy a shelf grind. I was going to go with the older 308 street roller until Dwayne picked out a -5 for me instead. At the time our feeling was the -5 would pick up some power without hurting reliability/longevity enough to notice. Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

383man [Re: ZIPPY] #696747 05/13/10 08:47 PM 05/13/10 08:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man OP Too Many Posts
383man OP Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Thanks for the replies. I know I will need a good strong valvetrain if I use the race roller with the spring pressure they run. Course I want a strong valvetrain no matter what cam I use. Ron

383man [Re: ZIPPY] #696748 05/13/10 08:49 PM 05/13/10 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man OP Too Many Posts
383man OP Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: Ron, Ive talked to Dwayne at length about this on a couple occasions. He says the -5 Comp lobes are very very reliable in a real street driven application. And Dwayne is right. I got my -5 grind from PRH and it has been very good. The first design street rollers are nice grinds too, though, and worth checking out if a guy wants to buy a shelf grind. I was going to go with the older 308 street roller until Dwayne picked out a -5 for me instead. At the time our feeling was the -5 would pick up some power without hurting reliability/longevity enough to notice. Zippy can I ask you the cam specs on that cam and the spring pressure you run with it ??? Thanks , Ron

Re: 383man [Re: 383man] #696749 05/13/10 11:18 PM 05/13/10 11:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az D Darryls-Demon super stock
Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	I have a Comp Cams solid street roller in my Challenger. There is about 1500 miles on the motor and so far all is good. The lifter bores have been bushed, I do not know if that helps. The Cam is small- 248-254@ .050 and .622-.612 lift with 1.6 Rockers. Seat pressure is somthing like 200 on the seat 470 open. 5981626-IMG_1001.JPG (38 downloads)

Re: 383man [Re: Darryls-Demon] #696750 05/13/10 11:26 PM 05/13/10 11:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa R roadrunnerreds mopar
roadrunnerreds mopar R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Gettysburg Pa	darryls-demon your challenger reminds me of a car my aunt had when i was about 8 years old. do you have to bush the lifter bores. Bradley

Re: 383man [Re: roadrunnerreds] #696751 05/14/10 12:46 AM 05/14/10 12:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az D Darryls-Demon super stock
Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	Quote: darryls-demon your challenger reminds me of a car my aunt had when i was about 8 years old. do you have to bush the lifter bores. Bradley Bradley, the lifter bores do not need to be bushed. Did your aunt live in Gilbert Az in 1970? I would like to talk to the person who bought the car new.

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