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Best after market starter for BB #694272 05/10/10 05:51 PM 05/10/10 05:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia tex013 OP top fuel
tex013 OP top fuel Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,463 Sydney,Australia	Which is the best fitting after market starter for a 440/383 with Hooker competition headers? i only want to take the headers off once to fit CVR ? we don't sell dodge pickups here so i can't buy a starter to suit thanks, Tex New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: tex013] #694273 05/12/10 12:47 PM 05/12/10 12:47 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7 Colorado S Scizmz member
Scizmz member S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 7 Colorado	If I recall correctly the mini-starters are damn near universal. and SHOULD fit past your headers with little to no clearancing... cough

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: Scizmz] #694274 05/12/10 02:39 PM 05/12/10 02:39 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins master
Robbins master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	I've got one(factory mini from 92 1 ton van) on my 440 in my 86 RC. Moparlee

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: Robbins] #694275 05/12/10 04:57 PM 05/12/10 04:57 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi G GOLDMYN top fuel
GOLDMYN top fuel G Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,960 Kenosha, Wi	either google or ebay D B Electrical for mini starter Semper Fi

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: GOLDMYN] #694276 05/13/10 07:28 AM 05/13/10 07:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California D DennisH Vacation
DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	Mini. 440. TTI's. No problem.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: tex013] #694277 05/13/10 01:27 PM 05/13/10 01:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	The problem with the factory mini starter is they stick outward from the block and some headers occupy this area. The Rob MC starter can be rotated to any position. A little pricy but hopefully I will have it for a couple years or more before it needs to be serviced. http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/2.html Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694278 05/13/10 01:46 PM 05/13/10 01:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Short mopar starter with the stupid headman header Below is the same tube with the mc starter! Rear shot in the 1 o�clock position Even at the 3 o�clock position there is more room than the stock mini starter! 5 o�clock position Edit: June 21 I resized the pics so it won't be so hard to read this post. Last edited by HealthServices; 06/22/10 01:10 AM.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: tex013] #694279 05/13/10 09:28 PM 05/13/10 09:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 332 NY W WICKD6PK enthusiast
WICKD6PK enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 332 NY	RobbMc starter a little pricey but well worth the extra $ fits great- lots of room

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: WICKD6PK] #694280 05/14/10 02:07 AM 05/14/10 02:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada RobbMc super stock
RobbMc super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada	Thank you for posting the photos Health. By using planetary gear reduction rather than offset reduction, we can keep the motor very close to the block. HOWEVER, please keep in mind, our starter will not clear some aftermarket blocks (such as Indy Max or World Products) when using a 130 tooth ring gear (all automatics and some manual trans) because the blocks are wider in the starter area. Designing a better mouse trap always seems to lead to the evolution of smarter mice. www.robbmcperformance.com

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: RobbMc] #694281 06/21/10 09:11 PM 06/21/10 09:11 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 533 North Dakota 440abody mopar
440abody mopar Joined: May 2004 Posts: 533 North Dakota	Quote: Thank you for posting the photos Health. By using planetary gear reduction rather than offset reduction, we can keep the motor very close to the block. HOWEVER, please keep in mind, our starter will not clear some aftermarket blocks (such as Indy Max or World Products) when using a 130 tooth ring gear (all automatics and some manual trans) because the blocks are wider in the starter area. O.K. maybe I'm reading this wrong, but what I gather from this is that it will NOT fit my 727? 73 Dart Swinger 440/727 8.75 w/3.55's 34 Ford 3w coupe with a soon to be 1958 392HEMI!

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: 440abody] #694282 06/21/10 09:17 PM 06/21/10 09:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada RobbMc super stock
RobbMc super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 961 Carson City, Nevada	Quote: O.K. maybe I'm reading this wrong, but what I gather from this is that it will NOT fit my 727? Not if you are using an Indy or WP block. Otherwise, yes. Designing a better mouse trap always seems to lead to the evolution of smarter mice. www.robbmcperformance.com

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: tex013] #694283 06/21/10 11:47 PM 06/21/10 11:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 57 CT 4 440Kilmartin member
440Kilmartin member 4 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 57 CT	Hello I'm 19 and recently bought my first muscle car. its a 69 roadrunner 440 4 speed w/ a dana. it has headers and i noticed the original style starter is touching the header. .Do you think i should change the starter or the headers or both. and what brands. Thank you 6048659-28094_402262774557_502319557_4025520_3992732_n.jpg (223 downloads)

383man [Re: 440Kilmartin] #694284 06/22/10 12:17 AM 06/22/10 12:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I use the Mopar starter on my sons 400 and I bought a "Power Master" starter for the 440 in my 63. Both work great. The Dart has 2" CPPA headers and my 63 has 1-3/4 Hedmans. Ron

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: 440Kilmartin] #694285 06/22/10 12:27 AM 06/22/10 12:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: Hello I'm 19 and recently bought my first muscle car. its a 69 roadrunner 440 4 speed w/ a dana. it has headers and i noticed the original style starter is touching the header. .Do you think i should change the starter or the headers or both. and what brands. Thank you Depends on what you want, but if your starter has been resting on the header for a while, it is ready to die anyways, so putting on a new header that clears that old starter will still mean you have a old starter that's has been subject to a lot of heat. In other words if you buy a new header you should buy a new starter too. If you buy the correct starter for your application, you will have less headaches. Boy I'm going to repost the pictures so this post is not so awkward to read. The following 5 pictures are repost so I will not have to host them. Please disregard as they are posted above. sorry. Last edited by HealthServices; 06/22/10 02:26 AM.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694286 06/22/10 12:49 AM 06/22/10 12:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Short starter with Headman header... 6048784-1.jpg (272 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694287 06/22/10 12:55 AM 06/22/10 12:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Same RobbMC starter with same tube 6048799-5928371-sametuberobmc.jpg (257 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694288 06/22/10 12:57 AM 06/22/10 12:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	robbmc Solenoid in 1 o'clock position 6048806-5928571-robmc1.jpg (215 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694289 06/22/10 01:02 AM 06/22/10 01:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	3 o'clock position with room still to spare. 6048810-5928573-robbmc3.jpg (333 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694290 06/22/10 01:05 AM 06/22/10 01:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	5 o'clock position 6048814-5928576-robbmc2.jpg (245 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Best after market starter for BB [Re: HealthServices] #694291 06/22/10 01:27 AM 06/22/10 01:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Member 'Stinger' factory style mini starter hitting exhaust. From below From above Slight dinging required for this header... Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

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