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Best after market starter for BB

Posted By: tex013

Best after market starter for BB - 05/10/10 09:51 PM

Which is the best fitting after market starter for a 440/383 with Hooker competition headers?
i only want to take the headers off once to fit
CVR ?
we don't sell dodge pickups here so i can't buy a starter to suit
thanks,
Tex
Posted By: Scizmz

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/12/10 04:47 PM

If I recall correctly the mini-starters are damn near universal. and SHOULD fit past your headers with little to no clearancing... *cough*
Posted By: Robbins

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/12/10 06:39 PM

I've got one(factory mini from 92 1 ton van) on my 440 in my 86 RC.
Posted By: GOLDMYN

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/12/10 08:57 PM

either google or ebay D B Electrical for mini starter
Posted By: DennisH

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/13/10 11:28 AM

Mini. 440. TTI's. No problem.
Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/13/10 05:27 PM

The problem with the factory mini starter is they stick outward from the block and some headers occupy this area.



The Rob MC starter can be rotated to any position. A little pricy but hopefully I will have it for a couple years or more before it needs to be serviced.



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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/13/10 05:46 PM




Short mopar starter with the stupid headman header



Below is the same tube with the mc starter!



Rear shot in the 1 o’clock position



Even at the 3 o’clock position there is more room than the stock mini starter!



5 o’clock position



Edit: June 21 I resized the pics so it won't be so hard to read this post.
Posted By: WICKD6PK

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/14/10 01:28 AM

RobbMc starter a little pricey but well worth the extra $ fits great- lots of room
Posted By: RobbMc

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 05/14/10 06:07 AM

Thank you for posting the photos Health. By using planetary gear reduction rather than offset reduction, we can keep the motor very close to the block.

HOWEVER, please keep in mind, our starter will not clear some aftermarket blocks (such as Indy Max or World Products) when using a 130 tooth ring gear (all automatics and some manual trans) because the blocks are wider in the starter area.
Posted By: 440abody

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 01:11 AM

Quote:

Thank you for posting the photos Health. By using planetary gear reduction rather than offset reduction, we can keep the motor very close to the block.

HOWEVER, please keep in mind, our starter will not clear some aftermarket blocks (such as Indy Max or World Products) when using a 130 tooth ring gear (all automatics and some manual trans) because the blocks are wider in the starter area.



O.K. maybe I'm reading this wrong, but what I gather from this is that it will NOT fit my 727?
Posted By: RobbMc

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 01:17 AM

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O.K. maybe I'm reading this wrong, but what I gather from this is that it will NOT fit my 727?



Not if you are using an Indy or WP block. Otherwise, yes.
Posted By: 440Kilmartin

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 03:47 AM

Hello I'm 19 and recently bought my first muscle car. its a 69 roadrunner 440 4 speed w/ a dana. it has headers and i noticed the original style starter is touching the header. .Do you think i should change the starter or the headers or both. and what brands. Thank you

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Posted By: 383man

383man - 06/22/10 04:17 AM

I use the Mopar starter on my sons 400 and I bought a "Power Master" starter for the 440 in my 63. Both work great. The Dart has 2" CPPA headers and my 63 has 1-3/4 Hedmans. Ron
Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 04:27 AM

Quote:

Hello I'm 19 and recently bought my first muscle car. its a 69 roadrunner 440 4 speed w/ a dana. it has headers and i noticed the original style starter is touching the header. .Do you think i should change the starter or the headers or both. and what brands. Thank you



Depends on what you want, but if your starter has been resting on the header for a while, it is ready to die anyways, so putting on a new header that clears that old starter will still mean you have a old starter that's has been subject to a lot of heat.

In other words if you buy a new header you should buy a new starter too. If you buy the correct starter for your application, you will have less headaches.

Boy I'm going to repost the pictures so this post is not so awkward to read.

The following 5 pictures are repost so I will not have to host them. Please disregard as they are posted above. sorry.
Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 04:49 AM

Short starter with Headman header...

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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 04:55 AM

Same RobbMC starter with same tube

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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 04:57 AM

robbmc Solenoid in 1 o'clock position

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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 05:02 AM

3 o'clock position with room still to spare.

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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 05:05 AM

5 o'clock position

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Posted By: HealthServices

Re: Best after market starter for BB - 06/22/10 05:27 AM

Member 'Stinger' factory style mini starter hitting exhaust.


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