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Another "what will it run?" post UPDATE! New Best! #689709
05/05/10 06:53 PM
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69 Cuda with 8.5:1 340/727

3.91s

RPM intake

750 Holley

stock J heads

Hughes Whiplash cam

Intake Valve Lift 1.5
Exhaust Valve Lift 1.5 .512"
.518"

Intake Valve Lift 1.6
Exhaust Valve Lift 1.6 .546"
.552"

Intake Duration at .050"
Exhaust Duration at .050" 223°
236°

Lobe Separation Angle 107º

Intake Opening at .050"
Exhaust Opening at .050" 7.5° BTC
48° BBC

Intake Closing at .050"
Exhaust Closing at .050" 35.5° ABC
8° ATC

Last year at the Classics it ran a best of 13.26 @ 103 with a stock converter and 215/70/14 rear tires. 60 ft times were 2.0s at best. This year it has a tight 10" converter and 275/50/15 M/T drag radials. With that cam and converter combo and hooking up hard, what kind of gains do you think I could expect at the Classics in a couple of weeks? Not looking for exact, this is just for fun. 13.10s? 13.00? 12.9?

What do you think?

Thanks

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Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689710
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Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689711
05/05/10 09:44 PM
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Depends on the conv but 12.60s

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689712
05/05/10 09:52 PM
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Depending on the weather but, I'll say 12.90 @ 104 MPH
Doesn't that car weigh like 3400+ lbs?

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689713
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From my personal experience, a 10th off the 60ft times equals a 10th and a half off the ET. So, if the converter and drag radials get you down to a 1.75 60ft, I'd say 12.85 or so.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: S/ST 3040] #689714
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Quote:

Depending on the weather but, I'll say 12.90 @ 104 MPH
Doesn't that car weigh like 3400+ lbs?




Last year it weighed 3440 with a full tank of fuel, spare tire, and jack. Driver weighed 140lbs. This year, the spare tire and jack are removed. The back seat will also be out for the Classics while it's being reupholstered. However, the wheels are now 15" instead of 14" and the tires are wider, so that added a few pounds. Tires are within a 10th of an inch of the last year's, so gear ratio will be about the same.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689715
05/06/10 11:49 AM
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I'll guess 12.90


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as long as you look good doing it!

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Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689716
05/06/10 12:24 PM
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I thing 12.6's 12.7's for sure.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: Dodgem] #689717
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Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689718
05/06/10 08:11 PM
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Quote:

This year, the spare tire and jack are removed. The back seat will also be out for the Classics while it's being reupholstered.




Those are no small changes. How much weight is that? Weather conditions play a big part when trying to compare results as well.

I'll guess 12.93 @ 104.5.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689719
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I ran my first 12.9 pass on 103 MPH...when you hook you may lose some MPH but the weight loss and good converter should more than make up for it.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: dustergirl340] #689720
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Good lookin car.
12.99 @ 104

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689721
05/08/10 02:47 PM
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These guys are really being optimistic, i like that, that will be a time slip for the laminator.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689722
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I know I gained 2 tenths when I went to a sticky tire and also agree what comes off of your 60' so goes the e.t.. Assuming the converter is an upgrade, stalls better and is more efficient through the traps..............

I'd say bustin' into the 12.90's (or better) is no problem.


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Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #689723
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We are likin the sounds of that.

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: Lew] #689724
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The air wasn't the greatest today, but 13.16 @ 103. Red light first round in the gambler's race, but would have broke out anyway. Best 60ft was 1.89 on the last run. Hoping for better air during time trials in the morning...and maybe a 12.9 or so. Either way, great first day.


Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689725
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your not MPHing real good how is your jetting too rick or too lean can kill it!!

Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: Dodgem] #689726
05/14/10 10:33 PM
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You can look at that either way.... Either he's not MPHing real well, OR.... Damn!, he's getting out of the hole quick for a car that only goes 103!!! My car ran 13.7's at 101 last year.


LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: StealthWedge67] #689727
05/15/10 12:08 AM
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I run 12.5s @ 104, soon to be 12.4s

Congrats on the new best, get that 60ft. down & it'll be in the 12s.

Last edited by joedust451; 05/15/10 12:10 AM.

75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: Another "what will it run?" post [Re: OA5599] #689728
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Pretty good air this morning, at least in western PA. Let us know how it goes.

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