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440 Jet Boat Anyone ran or running one? #674149
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I picked up a 17 1/2 foot jet boat last fall been working on it needing some help on the cooling system anyone?

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Re: 440 Jet Boat Anyone ran or running one? [Re: Bishop] #674150
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Re: 440 Jet Boat Anyone ran or running one? [Re: v269] #674151
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Now IF they would have a specific V-drive forum !!

I am putting my boat together slowly ... and I have decided to run a "closed" cooling system. Reason ? .. because when using lake water - most applications NEVER get-up to good operating temp.

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I picked up a 17 1/2 foot jet boat last fall been working on it needing some help on the cooling system anyone?

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Did you get my pics over on Performance boats?

Re: 440 Jet Boat Anyone ran or running one? [Re: BB70DUSTER] #674153
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Try www.screamandfly.com

They have forums and tech sections.

Nice boat!


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Re: 440 Jet Boat Anyone ran or running one? [Re: v269] #674155
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I think what he was getting at, is the fact that a 440 does not have a water outlet on the intake, its on the water pump... Which a jet boat does not use....

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The beauty of the B/RB wedge for jet boat is you can use the front cooling ports for inlet/outlet or the lower block drain plugs as an outlet. Outfitting a T-stat is a bigger problem. There's ways to fab up a housing using a Brand-C marine T-stat housing.

If you really want to run an "enclosed system", simply learn how to use a TIG welder and make your own aluminum radiators then mount them into the side gunnels, w/remote elec. fans, or one big rad. mounted in back. Either way it's a fab all deal.

My 18' jet runs the coolant in through the front lower cooling passages and out the uppers. It has an old Edelbrock marine set-up. The key ingredient is to monitor your system pressure. With a closed system, an aftermarket electric pump (Mezuirre sp?) like the drag racers use might be the way to go. Jetters typically use a pressure by-pass regulator since pump pressure can get as high as 200-300 psi.

V-drives rule but jets are far more cost effective and easier to maintain.


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V-drives rule but jets are far more cost effective and easier to maintain.



Uhhhh... yeh.... if you say so....

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V-drives rule but jets are far more cost effective and easier to maintain.



Uhhhh... yeh.... if you say so....




WHICH part of this quote do you have a prob with ?

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Maybe back east where you guys are, V drives rule... not so much out here... nothing cheap about putting HP to a Jet either...

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I am hardly an expert ... I am still working on my v-drive project ... but I have a 17' Hydrostream with a Black Max if I have the need-ferr-speed on-da-water ....

But I agree that V-drives "rule" ... BIG TIME .. if everything else is equal ...

But cheaper and EZier to maintain ? ... how is that figured ?

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theres plenty of triple digit jets out there is all Im sayin... Not to mention having a better ride in a tunnel or gull wing...

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Maybe back east where you guys are, V drives rule... not so much out here... nothing cheap about putting HP to a Jet either...




I'll second that, here in central cali on the Kings River between Reedley and Kingsburg a V-drive is pretty rare. The river is shallow, but....it's better than any lake for skiing. Your intended environment should also play a part in the decision between the two.

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V-drives rule but jets are far more cost effective and easier to maintain.



Uhhhh... yeh.... if you say so....




Call me crazy, but a pump just isn't as efficient as a prop. I'm not trying to stir up anyfight here I own one of each and appreciate them both for what they are. BUT, given the same level of HP and a similar length, beam width of the hull the v-drive is worth 5-10 mph more. Yep, there's lots of fast jetters out there, way faster than me, but it's just an opinion, an observation over the years.


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Ok, I'll post a second question here. For a V-drive, 440 or 383?


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Ok, I'll post a second question here. For a V-drive, 440 or 383?




My opinion is bigger is always better....

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V-drives rule but jets are far more cost effective and easier to maintain.



Uhhhh... yeh.... if you say so....




Call me crazy, but a pump just isn't as efficient as a prop. I'm not trying to stir up anyfight here I own one of each and appreciate them both for what they are. BUT, given the same level of HP and a similar length, beam width of the hull the v-drive is worth 5-10 mph more. Yep, there's lots of fast jetters out there, way faster than me, but it's just an opinion, an observation over the years.



Its no secret a prop is more efficient, I just dont agree that a V-Drive rules... this is my last jet...

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Its no secret a prop is more efficient, I just dont agree that a V-Drive rules... this is my last jet...





Your opinion is noted.

I like jets due to the simplicity of design. A simple rack-n-pinion/cable combo for steering, a reverse bucket for backing up and far less bushings, bearings, gears, seals and gaskets to add to the cost when freshening the driveline. This I know for sure. Not to mention the initial cost to begin with.


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Ok, I'll post a second question here. For a V-drive, 440 or 383?




MY CHOICE is a hi-compression 383 ... since there is no transmission(and only ONE speed) .... I choose RPM abilities.

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