Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
[Re: Moparmaniacc]
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05/26/08 09:48 PM
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If you can turn one rear wheel by hand, with the car in gear, or if the wheels turn opposite, you do NOT have a sure grip, or else it's pretty "broke." I spose it's possible that the clutches could be so worn that you could turn one, but I've never seen one that bad.
You might just be lucky---you might have a car with just the right transfer and tires to hook up with both tires.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/26/08 09:52 PM
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you never heard of a "poor man's posi"?
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/26/08 10:10 PM
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you never heard of a "poor man's posi"?
Yeah but they won't spin the wheels one in each direction. Unless you know of one that I don't.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/26/08 10:17 PM
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seen lotsa open diffs that spin tires in opposite directions.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 07:52 AM
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seen lotsa open diffs that spin tires in opposite directions.
They all do as far as I know. Point being he is wondering if he has a ssure grip being he laid 2 strips even if turning the wheels with the car in the air the wheels turned opposite directions. The rest of us are saying that under the right conditions an open rear will lay down 2 strips for a short distance before 1 quits.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 08:18 AM
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yah i understand what the rest of you is saying. and yes even a cooked suregrip will still move both tires in the same direction. the "poor man posi" thing is a trick back in the day to make a open diff act like a suregrip (nothing to do with welding the spider gears).
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 08:42 AM
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yah i understand what the rest of you is saying. and yes even a cooked suregrip will still move both tires in the same direction. the "poor man posi" thing is a trick back in the day to make a open diff act like a suregrip (nothing to do with welding the spider gears).
how was it done never heard of that .
as far as the wheels turning in opposite directions , if the conetype is spent it's possible , but if you put enough power to it even an open can lay 2 strips , i have done it with a 340 when not taking off exactly straight .
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 09:03 AM
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my V6 dakota would put down 2 even patches and it was an open diff.
I had to do a 4000 rpm clutch drop to get both spinning though. if I went around a corner or was just driving normally on wet roads, only 1 would spin.
what is this poor mans posi you speak of?
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 05:12 PM
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yah i understand what the rest of you is saying. and yes even a cooked suregrip will still move both tires in the same direction. the "poor man posi" thing is a trick back in the day to make a open diff act like a suregrip (nothing to do with welding the spider gears).
how was it done never heard of that .
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 05:58 PM
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FWIW, a GM Corporate "Gov-Loc" will spin the wheels in the opposite direction when raised, but will lock up at a certain RPM. Doesnt help this siutation though does it? Will a detroit locker spin in the opposite direction when raised? I understand those are available now for an 8.75 rear. Gov-Locs are junk.
I used to care but....... things have changed
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/27/08 07:24 PM
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I think there talking about the old trick of shimming the side gears into the spiders on an open diff. It would create enough bind to actually mimic a sure-grip to a degree. Would also wear very fast.
actually, its preloading the pass rear with a air shock. nice trick, works well.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/28/08 10:38 AM
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I think there talking about the old trick of shimming the side gears into the spiders on an open diff. It would create enough bind to actually mimic a sure-grip to a degree. Would also wear very fast.
actually, its preloading the pass rear with a air shock. nice trick, works well.
how do you get an air shock inside the diff housing ???
oh , no luck on that coupler
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/29/08 12:33 AM
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I think there talking about the old trick of shimming the side gears into the spiders on an open diff. It would create enough bind to actually mimic a sure-grip to a degree. Would also wear very fast.
actually, its preloading the pass rear with a air shock. nice trick, works well.
how do you get an air shock inside the diff housing ???
oh , no luck on that coupler
in the diff? how'd you come up with that? anyways, airshock to replace the stock shock on the pass side. pump her up and its done. coupler.. no biggie.
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Re: Sure Grip even tho wheels spin opposite directions?
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05/29/08 08:37 AM
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actually, its preloading the pass rear with a air shock. nice trick, works well.
how do you get an air shock inside the diff housing ???
in the diff? how'd you come up with that? anyways, airshock to replace the stock shock on the pass side. pump her up and its done. coupler.. no biggie.
that was a joke
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