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Re: A12 Identification [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #638841
03/14/10 12:10 PM
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A 5/16" and 1/4" fuel lines would be a dead ringer for an A12-I bet those haven't been removed.

Re: A12 Identification [Re: Paul Jacobs] #638842
03/14/10 01:48 PM
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A 383 car would never have the 1/4" return line. Again, if it's an H car without the fender tag or broadcast sheet, I would not pay A12 money for it unless there is very good documentation! I don't blame you for checking it out. They are cool cars!

Re: A12 Identification [Re: Scatransit] #638843
03/14/10 07:38 PM
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I've added the return fuel line and have a long list now. Thanks guys.

I'm not familiar with the extra solenoid wire never having had a 6-pack car. What color is it and what type of end connector does it have?


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #638844
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k- frame




Why the k frame, whats diff?


69 top 70 bottom.

Re: A12 Identification [Re: RallyeMike] #638845
03/14/10 08:01 PM
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I'm fairly certain it is blue...attached
is a factory pic from the brouchure. It looks black in the photo, but it is blue. It branches off the ballast resitor input wire.

5865260-69promobee4.jpg (111 downloads)

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Re: A12 Identification [Re: Scatransit] #638846
03/14/10 08:05 PM
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Another...a survivor pic...

5865271-a12detail4.bmp (179 downloads)

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Re: A12 Identification [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #638847
03/14/10 09:10 PM
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It should have a title with an M in the VIN and a matching VIN. Unless you think it's a fake title and VIN, there's really no question.




its not hard to swap out a dash with the vin tag still attached to a car it doesn't belong to...
you need to verify the body stampings matching them
to the vin to be sure what the car body is and even that isn't
fool proof...

Re: A12 Identification [Re: flypaper] #638848
03/14/10 09:23 PM
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no fenders, grill, or drive train.




Really? Chrysler threw in a free grill with them?! That's got to be a rare piece to have today....

Charcoal or gas?

Re: A12 Identification #638849
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While all of the things above are valid indicators of a true A12 car you have to remember it is 40 plus years old and a lot can happen to a car in that time.
The key thing is the M engine code in the VIN. Don't confuse it withe the 2 digit of the VIN as any 1969 RR or Bee will have an M there. It is the 5th digit.
As said above check the hidden VIN numbers to match the VIN plate and you are very likely assured it is real. However in 40 years it could have been front clipped, rear clipped or both and those numbers may not be there or if used parts were used it will have the VIN fron that donor car. Not to mention that there were some cars that the hidden numbers were mistakenly missed when but that was very rare.

Re: A12 Identification #638850
03/15/10 09:13 AM
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Hey, if all else fails just say it is one of the rare H code A12 cars they made

Re: A12 Identification [Re: 5126brl No more] #638851
03/15/10 10:07 AM
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Hey if all else fails just say it is one of the rare H code A12 cars the made



I was going to bring that up but figured it would confuse the situation since there are only two known to exist, but they are A12 Road Runners, not Bees.

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Re: A12 Identification [Re: Dave Watt] #638852
03/15/10 10:55 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: RallyeMike] #638853
03/16/10 03:06 PM
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No problem...make sure you post some pics!


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: RallyeMike] #638854
03/16/10 06:23 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic




Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: Alaska_A12] #638855
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic




Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.




Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR

Re: A12 Identification [Re: A12] #638856
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic




Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.




Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR




How would you know, Mike?


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: dannysbee] #638857
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic




Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.




Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR




How would you know, Mike?




Danny, not our first "I think I may have found a [add rare Mopar here] how can I tell" thread now is it? (add sound of engine of a black Suburban starting and reving here too)

Re: A12 Identification [Re: A12] #638858
03/16/10 09:06 PM
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Suspense is killing me!!!>>>>>


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Re: A12 Identification [Re: Q5_Ed] #638859
03/16/10 10:31 PM
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One no one has mentioned:

Lots of tire rubber in the rear wheel wells!

Re: A12 Identification [Re: Q5_Ed] #638860
03/17/10 11:28 AM
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Suspense is killing me!!!>>>>>




Where is the update???

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