A12 Identification

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...I agree with everyone above except for the leaf springs. I have Broadcast sheet documentation on many of the early build A12 cars where they were delivered with the standard Rallye suspension, 5 leafs per side. 99% of them have the Hemi suspension with 7 leafs on the passenger side though...

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I'm not sure how complete this car is, and I was speaking in general terms in an effort to help give him things to look for. We all know there are lots of things that could be argued with respect to authentication of these cars (any MOPAR really). Another example would be an "H" instead of "M" etc.

Also it should have the larger 26" radiator opening in the core support...As well as no provisions in the firewall for A/C...

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Is the oval gas filler hole a gag or is this really true? Why would they do that only on A12 cars?

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they did it on all cars built after jan of 69
a12 cars were built after jan of 69

alot of the things that are listed here are most likely long gone on a gutted out a12 car.

what you should look for is the
obvious m in the vin number on the dash vin tag
does it have a fender tag ???
if yes, does it match the vin tag on the dash??
after looking for or at the fender tag,
then look at the the front rad support and see if
the last 6 digits of the vin with a 9a before it is stamped in to it.
then you should go to the driver side trunk gutter and under
the trunk lid seal should be those same numbers stamped in it as on the rad support.
if those numbers match up
you have a a12 car


good luck

ps
bring back pics and numbers please

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then look at the the front rad support and see if the last 6 digits of the vin with a 9a before it is stamped in to it.
then you should go to the driver side trunk gutter and under
the trunk lid seal should be those same numbers stamped in it as on the rad support.
if those numbers match up
you have a a12 car

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A few:
5th digit an "M"
DANA rear
2 extra 1/2 leaves on right side
spacers (about 1/8 inch thick) under lower control arm bumpers
unique engine harness with the idle solenoid wire going to passenger side

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A good way to tell is the owner will have bad attitude and tell you "Do you know what this is?"
Hope this helps!

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Seriously though, good luck. I hope everything works out for you. Hopefully we'll see some pictures soon....

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k- frame

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A few:
5th digit an "M"
DANA rear
2 extra 1/2 leaves on right side
spacers (about 1/8 inch thick) under lower control arm bumpers
unique engine harness with the idle solenoid wire going to passenger side

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I think your suggestion about the 1/8" spacers under the rubber bumpers on the lower control arms is the best suggestion yet for a car that may be missing eveery other form of identification. It's unlikely anybody would have removed the bumpers and spacer plates! It should have holes in the front for the original hood pins even if someone added a hood with hinges at a later date. If there are hinges, you could remove them to check out the paint behind them to see how it's painted in that area?

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k- frame

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Why the k frame, whats diff?

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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic

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Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.

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Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR

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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic

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Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.

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Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR

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How would you know, Mike?

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Thanks for the advice guys. I've been through many a Mopar, just never an A12 car. This car has been parked for 30 years and I have a lot of confidence in the Mopar people who remember it as an original A12 back in the 70s and early 80's. I really don't expect any shenanigans since it has been sitting so long. I have more than enough information here mixed with my general Mopar knowledge to ID the car now.

Thanks a BUNCH for the solenoid wire pic

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Give me the address!! I'll go look at it and let you know if it's worth it.

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Jim I know you would have sent him a PM but his mailbox was FULL


MikeR

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How would you know, Mike?

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Danny, not our first "I think I may have found a [add rare Mopar here] how can I tell" thread now is it? (add sound of engine of a black Suburban starting and reving here too)