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Painting Headers What to use? #637459
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I am sick of my headers always looking rusty and crusty! So, I am going to sandblast them and paint them. What should I use though to make sure they stay looking good?

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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #637460
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VHT Paint Flameproof

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: DAMOPARS] #637461
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I used the VHT and it burned off quickly. I'm a BIG fan of charcoal grill paint. They sell it at home depot or lowes and it works. Painted an old set of heddmans and they looked good after 3 years of driving. I'll be heading to HD this weekend to pick up some for my new Super Comps


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: DAMOPARS] #637462
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Does this require any kind of primer or direct over steel?

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: mymcodebee] #637463
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Does this require any kind of primer or direct over steel?




I strip the factory paint (it's worthless) and then I wipe then down w/ brake clean then paint it on. Usuallly 3 light coats. Only problem is you can only get it in Black..well they might have red but who wants red headers?

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #637464
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i use eastwood manifold paint, the stuff they want you to brush on, on thin it and shot it out of my spray gun, blast headers, hang then i put on around 6-8 coats with that little pint, must be over bare steel or will flake off. works well


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637465
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I used the charcoal grill paint as well, but I have to tell you it didn't work either......but here's a bump as I know there are paint's out there that will work.

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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: DAMOPARS] #637466
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VHT Paint Flameproof


ahhh just found this on the VHT paint. Maybe this is why mine didn't last.
On the Vehicle

• Paint must be completely dry before curing
• Run at idle for 10 minutes
• Cool for 20 minutes
• Run at idle for 20 minutes
• Cool for 20 minutes
• Run under normal operating conditions for
• 30 minutes
Off the Vehicle

• Paint must be completely dry before curing
• Heat to 250°F (121°C) for 30 minutes
• Cool for 30 minutes
• Heat to 400°F (204°C) for 30 minutes
• Cool for 30 minutes
• Heat to 650°F (343°C ) for 30 minutes

Not a chance a normal guy can run a heating cycle like that.

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #637467
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and after the cleaning/sanding/brake kleen should it be primed 1st (if so with what)


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: RapidRobert] #637468
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and after the cleaning/sanding/brake kleen should it be primed 1st (if so with what)




I don't think you need to prime it. If you did you'd have to have high temp primer too, so what's the point?

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637469
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. If you did you'd have to have high temp primer too, so what's the point?


the point would be to achieve a paint that would last which is what we are trying to figure out here


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: RapidRobert] #637470
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. If you did you'd have to have high temp primer too, so what's the point?


the point would be to achieve a paint that would last which is what we are trying to figure out here




most cans of hightemp paint I have read say apply to bare metal...

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637471
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VHT wants you to use there white high temp primer

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637472
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most cans of hightemp paint I have read say apply to bare metal...


yeah that is what I was wondering as I've done very little painting and I did not know if the same (painting) basics applied to headers just like car panels and since it sounds problematic when I get to that point I want to increase my odds of it not burning off. Alright NO primer. Now on to the best paint/technique and I think some sort of heat curing is the key. There is a plater close by, would that be doable & if so what metal?


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: RapidRobert] #637473
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Not sure what's local to you but there are companies out there that will jet coat your headers. Not sure how much it costs.

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637474
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Not sure what's local to you but there are companies out there that will jet coat your headers. Not sure how much it costs.





My local coating shop wanted about $400 to coat a set of BB headers.

Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #637475
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Lincoln plating (now Lincoln Industries) does plating for Speedway motors and Harley Davidson an they do chrome gold and nickel. I'll have to call them & see if they will do a piece for an off the street customer, how much and what other metals they offer and what they might recommend. I'm not a painter but I think some kind of heat curing is going to be required for a paint to last. EDIT unless maybe a specialty aircraft type which would be $$$ but if that's what it takes

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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: RapidRobert] #637476
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What ever happened to the
"Aluma Coat" BlackJack offered in the 80s? They would spray their cheap headers with molten aluminum. The finish was a very course abrasive aluminum colored coating. It was durable and not expensive.


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Re: Painting Headers What to use? [Re: MRHWS] #637478
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www.techlinecoatings.com you can buy the same type coatings that jet-hot uses and apply them yourself. Save a lot of money, check them out.

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