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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: patrick]
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02/25/10 03:04 PM
02/25/10 03:04 PM
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also, don't forget, that the ECU isn't some parts store ECU, it's one he designed and manufactured, and doesn't pull timing out at high RPM like most chrysler ECU's...
I'd actually like to see the proof behind that. ive heard it said before but Ive never seen anyone back it up with data. got any?
It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: aarcuda]
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02/26/10 06:00 AM
02/26/10 06:00 AM
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N.E. England
Roppa440
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No way has Don got the brains or microprocessing facility to "engineer" or develope a solid state electronic device of any description.
It seems to act like a HEI module. I wonder if the FBO unit is basically a HEI in a Chrysler type container??
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: aarcuda]
#620551
02/26/10 06:29 AM
02/26/10 06:29 AM
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Answering the call of the wild
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I'd actually like to see the proof behind that. ive heard it said before but Ive never seen anyone back it up with data. got any?
No way has Don got the brains or micro-processing facility to "engineer" or develop a solid state electronic device of any description
I corrected the grammar errors in the above quotes.
This is where I get off the bus...you don't deserve answers to your questions as it insults most peoples common decency.
The control boxes electric circuit is constructed from separate components. The quality of the components and construction determines how well the box will function or deliver spark. Got that sparkey???
As a customer of FBO I can back it the "claims" with real data but what for? Another bully will come along and spout more nonsense.
It's comments like this that takes the good technical information that forums are supposed to provide and ruins it...ignorance rules 
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: ThermoQuad]
#620552
02/26/10 09:40 AM
02/26/10 09:40 AM
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I recall at one point, maybe 4-5 years ago, when there was s big deal being made about the MP Orange controllers failing someone did a test with several different ones. The post is older than the search function we have now so I can't find it. But one was an FBO as I recall, and they were fairly new to the market at the time. The MP orange did pull timing out, as did I think one parts store version. The Standard Ignition LX-101 module did not, nor did Don's. The Standard ones I've used in many cars and trucks I did conversions on (removing lean burn). The last one I bought was a couple years ago but it was like $28. Again, timing control on that level is an issue many enthusiasts dont know about. So there are other just as good but much cheaper options if one understands the problem and looks. The key is understanding the whole thing and not relying on one salesman's pitch on it. Now not to sound like some toothless dog barking and spouting garbage... In 1987 I bought an ignition system from a small company called Jacobs Ignition after reading about it in Chrysler Power Magazine. The owner was Chris Jacobs, PH D. He wrote a book published in 1999 titled Performance Ignition Systems (HP books #1306). Chapter 6, page 126 (I found it on line to get the reference) there is a chart that reccommends for street and race the Std Ignition LX-101 as it's stable to 8500. Interestingly, the pic on the FBO site, and the pic of the Std part, are identical aside from teh black epoxy (FBO) vs blue(Std) and different from the MP case module. You might also note FBO reccommends Std. Ign "Blue Streak" (Standard's perforamnce line) caps and rotors. So I don't think the relationship betwen the two companies is very distant. In any event, tehse are just my opinions. I generally don't believe ads or hype.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: moper]
#620553
02/26/10 10:57 AM
02/26/10 10:57 AM
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Canada
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Great points Moper
Here is a How to...
if you want to know how or do it yourself
the MP version, you simply adjust inside the distributer, really easy!
Last edited by Kam*Kuda; 02/26/10 11:07 AM.
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: Kam*Kuda]
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02/26/10 11:01 AM
02/26/10 11:01 AM
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Canada
Kam*Kuda
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Not hard to do. Worked excellent. The MSD box was a nice improvement especially at idle. 18 intial worked great for my lil 408 and 35 total.
All you really do is get the initial what works best for your combo and you can do that in your driveway. And set the total at somewhere between 34-36 based on some engine info. You wekld up the slots and file them back to get the spread between initial and total ie 18 to 35 is 17 degrees spread. Weld up the slot and file back. see the notes for the sizing
The light springs let the advance come in quicker.
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Re: FBO Ignition
[Re: RapidRobert]
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02/26/10 05:19 PM
02/26/10 05:19 PM
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Grand Haven, MI
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nope, pistons .055 in the hole, .028" head gasket. comp works out right to 9:1. I kinda wish I woulda decked the block .040 while it was apart. but right now it runs real strong on 87 octane with a 259 degree advertised (208@.050, 127@.2) roller cam.
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