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Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: 1Fast340] #587539 01/19/10 02:55 PM 01/19/10 02:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY 9 9 Sec Phill On a road near you
9 Sec Phill On a road near you 9 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,293 Northeast, Alpine, NY	We need to talk hemifred into putting his twin turbo 451 hemi in a good chassis car and go win the big prize......phill

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: 1Fast340] #587540 01/19/10 03:06 PM 01/19/10 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: probably an A-body and a bunch of $$$$$$$. I mean that's what it comes down to. Buy an old PS car hang a dart shell on it and go. not trying to argue and i know alot of real fast "street"cars are rebodied old prostocks but are those chasies realy set up for all that torque? i mean they are higly refined and specialised racecars and they dont realy make that stupid amount of torque that a boosted engine makes? just a thought i have had in my mind for a very loong time but never realy asked the Question I'd thik they would. In any event you'd have abetter starting platform. What are the rules for that anyway? I'd think a S/C'd BIG hemi w/ 2 stage NOS could do it. Only uses boost and NOS when doing the 1/4 mile. Again it's all about how much money you want to spend.

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: sixpackgut] #587541 01/19/10 04:15 PM 01/19/10 04:15 PM
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bluthndr member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 75 SW Michigan	Quote: Moran spent i believe 3 days in Larsons car in 08 tuning on it. i think larson put that car together in a week before drag week 08 That may be so, but Moran (and Larson) spent years getting a turbo/BBC combo to get all that power in a manageable package and get it down the track. As far as the E-Body/B-body/A-Body debate, I agree with Fred about turbo cars and weight. The closest car to Larson's was a tube chassis 57 Chevy which still had a fair amount of steel and smaller chargers. It was in the 7s also with more to go and might have given him a run for it had he not blown up some th400s. 71 Cuda project 98 Ram V10 swapped to Cummins 12V auto 98 Ram 12V 5-spd Cummins Authorized Snap-On Dealer (feel free to call/email) ASE Master Certified

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? #587542 01/19/10 05:10 PM 01/19/10 05:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,165 Left Coast B BobR master
BobR master B Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,165 Left Coast	"The chassis needs to be right to hndle he power but a tube is not mandatory" This is the only think that we disagree on. It must be at least a 2/3 backhalf(maybe stock firewall forward-but not if the car is an older Mopar). For an older Mopar body style only a full tube chassis will work.

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: topfueldart] #587543 01/19/10 05:27 PM 01/19/10 05:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: I agree with Bob. Tube chassis, big turbos, Lenco... Basically a dump truck load of money. There is a reason why he has been as successful as he has after all. Its not cheap to go 6's at over 200. a KB twin turbo hemi in a chassis car. he's done

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #587544 01/19/10 06:02 PM 01/19/10 06:02 PM
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Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: cudarex] #587545 01/19/10 07:19 PM 01/19/10 07:19 PM
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bluthndr member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 75 SW Michigan	Quote: That is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. More info/pictures? Last edited by bluthndr; 01/19/10 07:22 PM. 71 Cuda project 98 Ram V10 swapped to Cummins 12V auto 98 Ram 12V 5-spd Cummins Authorized Snap-On Dealer (feel free to call/email) ASE Master Certified

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: cudarex] #587546 01/19/10 07:27 PM 01/19/10 07:27 PM
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ross member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 158 Canada north shore lake Ontari...	I would say a tube chassis for sure if for no other reason than safety. If I had the money I would pick the car I wanted to use, probably an A body and ask Larry to build the chassis. I know it would be built as well as his own. Tim Banning and I were shooting this breeze this morning and were talking about big power wedges ( he builds wedges on occasion but is better known for his hemis). He told me when you spend the money on a real high HP wedge that you are into the price range were you can build a hemi with more power for the same money. Food for thought. ross

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a H [Re: emarine01] #587547 01/19/10 07:31 PM 01/19/10 07:31 PM
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moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	Quote: A bullet prof short block with a ton of NoS didn't Eddie miller try that... 7.97 Mopar Performance

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a H [Re: moparniac] #587548 01/19/10 07:59 PM 01/19/10 07:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,049 MN J JERICOGTX I Live Here
JERICOGTX I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,049 MN	First off how many door car Mopars are even running in the 6's at over 200mph? let alone one that can be tuned to drive 1000 miles? Can it be done? Sure it can... BUT it would take a long time to get everything set in motion, and have it all come together just right... By that time the Nova will be even faster, or Drag Week will not even exist. Cooling would be a issue with just about any serious MOPAR race head. Just not enough choices with good cooling for a street car. Jeff 69 GTX 68 Road Runner

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #587549 01/19/10 08:51 PM 01/19/10 08:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois CRE2004 super gas
CRE2004 super gas Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois	Quote: So what would it take to beat this guy on Drag Week with a Hemi powered B or E-body? What chassis would you use, what would the engine build be? What tires? Who would be the best builder for the car and the most capable driver? He runs in the unlimited class, so tube a chassis, any blower or turbo or nitrous is OK, any tire, any trans. Larry runs a lenco trans. Remember, it has to make the 1000+ mile drive from track to track over the course of a week, as well as go 6's. Could it be done? The single most important piece needed would be the proper bank account. If you had that, the rest of the questions are easily answered! Tube chassis superbird clone, just because I could, twin turbo intercooled all aluminum EFI Hemi, TH400 on the back of my world block with a GV overdrive, 9" rear, under the hood and nose you'd have plenty of room for trans coolers and radiators with air ducted up from below the nose. It'd be primer black with P-40(forgive me for not knowing my airplanes) sharks teeth on the front OK, now which one of you has the bank account Last edited by CRE2004; 01/19/10 09:12 PM.

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: CRE2004] #587550 01/19/10 09:05 PM 01/19/10 09:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,049 MN J JERICOGTX I Live Here
JERICOGTX I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,049 MN	Quote: It'd be primer black with P51 sharks teeth on the front Those were the P-40's.

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: JERICOGTX] #587551 01/19/10 09:09 PM 01/19/10 09:09 PM
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Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: dannysbee] #587552 01/19/10 09:14 PM 01/19/10 09:14 PM
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prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	honestly i think it will be hard to beat larson period. You can have the deepest pockets ect. He has one of the best turbo guys in the country throwing in a hand wherever needed (mike moran) and his success and accomplishments speak for themselves. It would take ALOT of money, and i think thats what seperates it. At least it sure did for me

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: dannysbee] #587553 01/19/10 09:15 PM 01/19/10 09:15 PM
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CRE2004 super gas Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois	You guys should be more concerned with my choice of the TH400 behind it than the correct airplane reference Maybe we'd better throw in a lenco with a bruno drive just to be on the safe side Now, who's paying for all this??

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: CRE2004] #587554 01/19/10 09:19 PM 01/19/10 09:19 PM
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prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	i think the bruno would be out WAY before the first track

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Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? [Re: CRE2004] #587556 01/19/10 09:28 PM 01/19/10 09:28 PM
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dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Find someone that owns a P40 Warhawk or a P51 Mustang, they will have enough cash on hand to see it through. We did a project for A.J. Foyt a long time ago and he took the owner of the company I worked for a ride in his P51. He said it was the ride of a life time. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a H [Re: JERICOGTX] #587557 01/19/10 09:31 PM 01/19/10 09:31 PM
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blownEFI pro stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,417 Chicago, IL	Quote: Cooling would be a issue with just about any serious MOPAR race head. Just not enough choices with good cooling for a street car. Jeff E85 "These go to eleven", Nigel Tufnel

Re: How to beat Larsons 6 sec 200mph street Nova w/ a Hemi? #587558 01/19/10 09:52 PM 01/19/10 09:52 PM
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ksj master K Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,589 Topeka Kansas	Larry ran the Blower combo for years.2007 he took second behind Terzich's camaro.It was time to step up the combo. 07 had a small block TT stock suspension Mustang(Ev Bernado) who ran within 1 mph of Larry http://krang.hotrod.com/dragweek/hrdp_drag_week_07_friday_pro_street_results.pdf http://krang.hotrod.com/dragweek/hrdp_drag_week_07_friday_street_race_results.pdf Larry probably wont admit it but he was impressed with Evs car.That along with Larry already running Moran power was probably why the switch.If the tracks in 2010 do a good job of track prep watch out.Larson still has alot left in it.Hope that lil green Mustang makes it.Its now big block powered.Maybe I can talk MCrow into doing something different with his Dart hes building

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