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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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Connecting rods were measured for center to center length and found to be fairly accurate with in +/- .005. Wrist pin bore to pin clearance was found to be approx. .0005+. Connecting rod large end was found to be Fairly Accurate it maintained that accuraccy with slight variance of .0002+ at the parting lines. Weights at the small end varied +/- 1 gram as did the large end.
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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01/07/10 05:29 PM
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The kit was supplied with CB-743 H Clevite Bearings. The oil clearance to crank came up to .0025/.002. The only thing we noticed was the bearing misalignment from the cap to the rod.
1971 dodge challenger 500ci 9.70s
1969 superbee 383 4speed numbers matching original redline tires
1970 challenger round tube chassis project
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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Because of this misalignment the bearing shells extended past the rod surface. this is not a big issue as the bearings had no interferance at the crank radius. all in all the piston rod assembly looked quite well and in spec.
1971 dodge challenger 500ci 9.70s
1969 superbee 383 4speed numbers matching original redline tires
1970 challenger round tube chassis project
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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01/07/10 07:43 PM
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What lube was on the rod bolts, and did you cycle them?
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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This would be my curiosity as well. Were the bolts cycled 3-5 times, the rods "relaxed", then put back together and big ends re-measured? Thats where the offshore rods typically start to show signs of trouble. The rest of the numbers arent bad, but the +/-.005 length is a little out of line, but that is fairly typical with the price point type of components...anyones.
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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01/07/10 07:56 PM
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What lube was on the rod bolts, and did you cycle them?
Moly,and yes,when we got the engine the short block was already assembled.Actually it was put together twice,the owner got frustrated and dumped it on us. 
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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01/07/10 07:57 PM
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What lube was on the rod bolts, and did you cycle them?
Moly,and yes,when we got the engine the short block was already assembled.Actually it was put together twice,the owner got frustrated and dumped it on us.
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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This would be my curiosity as well. Were the bolts cycled 3-5 times, the rods "relaxed", then put back together and big ends re-measured? Thats where the offshore rods typically start to show signs of trouble. The rest of the numbers arent bad, but the +/-.005 length is a little out of line, but that is fairly typical with the price point type of components...anyones.
Previous owner had the rod end resize after the short block was assembled the frist time.Curt's check was after two torque cycles. 
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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This would be my curiosity as well. Were the bolts cycled 3-5 times, the rods "relaxed", then put back together and big ends re-measured? Thats where the offshore rods typically start to show signs of trouble. The rest of the numbers arent bad, but the +/-.005 length is a little out of line, but that is fairly typical with the price point type of components...anyones.
Previous owner had the rod end resize after the short block was assembled the frist time.Curt's check was after two torque cycles.
Doesnt this throw any usable data out the window?
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Re: 440 source kit update part 2
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This would be my curiosity as well. Were the bolts cycled 3-5 times, the rods "relaxed", then put back together and big ends re-measured? Thats where the offshore rods typically start to show signs of trouble. The rest of the numbers arent bad, but the +/-.005 length is a little out of line, but that is fairly typical with the price point type of components...anyones.
Previous owner had the rod end resize after the short block was assembled the frist time.Curt's check was after two torque cycles.
Doesnt this throw any usable data out the window?
Not really,no matter who's rod,Source,Oliver or any rod should be checked and sized.
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