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Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed #537773
11/27/09 12:09 AM
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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537774
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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537775
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Aww man, that sucks. Looks like all kinds of big dollar mess going on in the photos. What do you think started the chain reaction of breakage?


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: ProSport] #537776
11/27/09 12:19 AM
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Aww man, that sucks. Looks like all kinds of big dollar mess going on in the photos. What do you think started the chain reaction of breakage?




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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: ProSport] #537777
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WOW hate to see that.

Lots of RPM's?
Good thing that stock bellhousing held together.

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: bigtimeauto] #537778
11/27/09 12:22 AM
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I'm not really sure. It was the first time spraying the 340. It had a 200 shot. When I shifted from second to third this happened when I let the clutch out. My initial thought was the mechanism screwed up and got stuck in between 2nd and 3rd gear, and it was a chain reaction from there....


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537779
11/27/09 12:34 AM
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At least it was not the R5 block!

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537780
11/27/09 12:34 AM
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Holy hog stools !
Had a similar event in a '66 Cyclone at Brainerd years back.
Had a stock shaft balanced and new joints behind a C-6 and a fair 429.
On street tires , it spun through 150 feet or so and when it hooked , it twisted the shaft in half........shelling the tailshaft and oiling the lane for half the track.
Since we were in the third pair in the first time trial session , so you could say that we made no friends that morning.
My better half was driving and she got it over to the rail like you are supposed to do , but it was a long clean up.
I was on the line and when the trans fluid hit the headers , it was white out time.........I didn't know if she was on the wheels or the roof.
But I definitely feel your pain.
Well , maybe not.
Even in 1990 dollars , yours would probably cost more.
Could have been worse , but still , condolences.

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537781
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I've twisted off a few drive shafts like that ,but never broke all the rest including the motor . Sorry for your loss.



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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: Dos Snails] #537782
11/27/09 12:42 AM
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At least it was not the R5 block!




yes, good point, just so everyone knows this is not my white duster....

So it sounds more like the driveshaft broke first?


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537783
11/27/09 12:53 AM
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wow !!

sorry to see it man....





but you must be making some serious power !!!

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: 493_DART] #537784
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I wouldn't call it serious. With a 200 shot of nitrous I figure it might have been making 650ish?

Just a set of x heads with max porting, 2.02 valves, M1 intake, on a 340 10.5:1, mopar forged crank, eagle rods. It was a budget build at the time.

I don't remember the cam specs off hand, it was comp cam custom ground.

.528 IN
.534 EX
307 Adv duration
114 centerline installed at 110

IIRC... It's been quite a few years since I built this engine.


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick.... [Re: DemonDust] #537785
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That SUCKS, It even makes me feel sick.

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: DemonDust] #537786
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Wow that is alot of damage, the way the shaft looks is it possible something in the rear end started this, maybe a broken perch. Either way sorry for your loss.

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: 68Fastback] #537787
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Looks like the shaft broke and started the chain reaction. Should be able to fix the block. What does the floor of the car look like?


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: DemonDust] #537788
11/27/09 03:33 AM
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Was that a numbers matching drive train that just got grenaded?

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #537789
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I'd have to assume that something locked up in the trans ro spin it on the bellhousing and break the ears like that. I'll be interested to see what the inside looks like. Bummer!

Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: Jeremiah] #537790
11/27/09 04:24 AM
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I'd have to assume that something locked up in the trans ro spin it on the bellhousing and break the ears like that. I'll be interested to see what the inside looks like. Bummer!




It looks like the trans got jammed up by going into both 2 and 3 gears (there is a lockout on the housing that is "suposeto" prevent this). With the extra power it just did not break loose, A broken fork (between the 1-2) may have cause it not to get out of gear.

Once the trans locked up hard, the weight of the car and the momentum, just twisted the entire engine / tras until something had to give; unfortunately the parts were so equal, a lot gave...

Look at the direction of the twist on the drive shaft, I bet it is not clockwise (going forward) it is ccw (because the wheels were driving against a stopped load)

Be careful taking the tras apart and do some good careful looking to get to the root cause, but that is crazy...

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Sorry for the loss, I agree looks like the tranny locked up, and kept breaking stuff till there was no connection to torque input from either end.


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Re: Duster Carnage Pics..... Makes me sick....340 4 speed [Re: gregsdart] #537792
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That looks bad.
18 mths ago, my driveshaft let go going through the 1/4 finish line at 120 mph, smashed the trans case all the way round, and beat the hell out of the floor.
This year at the same meet, i over revved it and put a piston through the block
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