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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516943
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I use stock arms and pushrods also. One thing I seem to remember about my first go around with this cam is that I believe it "builds" compression due to the timing of the valve events. I think it would be excellent for a true 9 to 1 motor.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516944
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I'm running the Purple Stripe .474/.471, 280 duration,....340/6 4spd 3.91 gears,...the motors dynoed 443 HP usual goodies in the rebuild, 11 to 1 compression revs freely to 6500, but I try to keep it under 6000,....this cam/engine combo comes on strong around 3000 RPM on up,...not bad idle, rather choppy, I idle around 1200 RPM, but it sounds more like 600RPM, it that lopey I run a Mallory YL dual point reverse rotation Marine distributor with mechanical advance that holds the advance plate stationary until approx 2000 RPM, the advance plate is keyed for 28 degrees all in by 2000-2500 RPM, I run 10 BTDC initial, this set up gives the motor a good launch off the line, really puts the power down fast

Mike

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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516945
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Great cam! My 72 Demon ran 11.80 at 115 with this cam. Engine was basically a stock 71 340 with stock intake, TQ carb, steel crank, kb pistons, unported heads, with a 904 trans/stock OEM 318 convertor and 4.30 gears. Tire was a 27" slick with TTI headers and full exhaust. Sorry I changed the combination....will probably change back. Cam was a .474 hydraulic with with only .030 travel in lifter with adjustable rockers.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: stage3] #516946
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I agree that cam has to do something with adding compression, air elasticity and all that. I tuned a six-pak '73 Dart Sport 340 for a friend that bought it, and supposedly was a "built" engine. The car would beat my 440 'Cuda and a lot of others. It was real loud though, had headers and those see-through mufflers. The point: after we tore it down...8.5:1 compression - bone stock, 360 heads, 3.23 posi, and a shift kit! It had 9 or 10" at idle and timed at 12BTC, but that was on 1980's gasoline. The friend still wants the same combo to this day...for his kids. That cam rocks a smallblock.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: MagnumGT] #516947
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Do they make the same cam for a '98 360 roller block? If I had to, I could go with a earlier timing cover and use the longer cam with the fuel pump excentric, but want to keep the roller, in the setup. This cam sounds like exactly what I want/need. Any part numbers for it?


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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: fastnos] #516948
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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: dulcich] #516949
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..Steve..you have some experience with the comp XE268.How do they compare?
I'm thinking with a gear the .474 might E.T. better and the 268 would help a low compression engine and have better bottom end.
What's the least gear you would expect the .474 to like with a 4 speed,3.55?..my 3.23's are shot?
.. .al

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: NachoRT74] #516950
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here is when I get some questions. For same cam I got divided opinions to a 400, taking in mind I will raise compression with pistons, but then it looks good mounted on a SB, with less displacement and stroke, and no more engine build specs posted

I simply don't get it.




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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: NachoRT74] #516951
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try a 3.73-3.91 gear with the .474 cam


In the 4 dr I'm running the 323" with a MP2783 .430/.444" 340hp cam, and have smashing results with a 3.23 gear and 4 speed manual.

2783 Runs out to 5000rpm or so. The .474 will like 5,500rpm + with a 3.73 type gear.

I felt a large cruising difference from a 3.23 to a 3.73 with 25.5" tires...

For me, every engine with Hyraulic lifters and pushrods has always ran out around 5,500-6,000. A solid lifter valvetrain has to take charge, from there, give or take.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: fastnos] #516952
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Quote:

Do they make the same cam for a '98 360 roller block? If I had to, I could go with a earlier timing cover and use the longer cam with the fuel pump excentric, but want to keep the roller, in the setup. This cam sounds like exactly what I want/need. Any part numbers for it?




you could run the flat tappet in the roller block. personally I'd either regrind the roller cam, or pick up something like a comp XE268HR.

pick up a used roller cam out of an 80's 318, send it to bullet cams, and see if they can put their HR280/320 or HR274/325 lobe intake and exhaust on it....


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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: patrick] #516953
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I had that cam in my 340 Duster, it was a great street cam. It pulled hard with 3.55 & 3.91 gears with a 275 rear tire, a small converter would've made it better though.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: justinp61] #516954
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Hey guys Can.al would like to know how that cam works with a 4 gear.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: Dons Dart] #516955
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Read my post above,.....it really likes a four gear! pulls extremely strong in the 3-6K range,,,,,makes for a brutal assult on the driveline, I've popped about (3) 8 3/4 carriers, 3.55-3.91's racing, I'm running a Hemi 4spd and an 11" Hays BorgBeck 2800 lb pressure plate and a Kelvar disc behind my 340/6, I used to run a 3400 lb McLeod, but that was a bear on the streets, nevermind my leg!

Mike

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: DAYCLONA] #516956
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Have one in my 340 Dart, X heads, headers, Demon 650 dp, 3:23 gears-nothing crazy. This car runs like banshee. Lots of fun.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: Spike] #516957
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what are some of you running for timimg?
right now i'm at 12/35 and i know it wants a bit more brcause it wants to flood a bit occasionaly,so probably needs a little more time to burn.
my engine has decent forged slugs an probably about 9.2 comp.
i am running a 727 but hope to go to a 4 speed over the winter.
tx all,this has been great.


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Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516958
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I still think its carb problim not timeing.My 2 cents.

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: Dons Dart] #516959
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I still think its carb problim not timeing.My 2 cents.





For sure.


Needs a little more time to burn??

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516960
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..Steve..you have some experience with the comp XE268.How do they compare?
I'm thinking with a gear the .474 might E.T. better and the 268 would help a low compression engine and have better bottom end.
What's the least gear you would expect the .474 to like with a 4 speed,3.55?..my 3.23's are shot?
.. .al




Well, let me tell you exactly how they compare. The XE268 has a modest lope and decent vacuume for the street. The Hemigrind has a chop that has a meaner sound but less vacuume. As far as peak power and rpm, they are pretty close; this would make a good dyno test but I would guess they are within a few HP. Both are very good street cams and will pull strong to 6000+ in a 340.
-dulcich

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: can.al] #516961
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right now i'm at 12/35 and i know it wants a bit more




You need about 6 more degrees initial is my guess, maybe more...

Re: mopar smallblock .474 cam [Re: Challenger 1] #516962
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I still run that cam in my 340. Got nothing bad to say about it. I run about 18 degrees of inital timing and it has great manners for the street.Sounds great at idle.







Idles at 800 rpm all day long.

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