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Clutch Shudder #493104 10/10/09 02:17 PM 10/10/09 02:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 120 Arizona A anmracing OP member
anmracing OP member A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 120 Arizona	Dang it!!!!! Now we�re getting massive clutch shudder and it drives me crazy!!!!! Feels like the whole rear end is hopping up and down like a old school lowrider. Car�s been running fine but then I started getting a bad hop when taking off. Reving it helps but I shouldn't have to do that..... No oil puddles under the car so there isn�t oil leaking from the engine or tranny, unusual for a MOPAR, so I doubt there is oil getting on the flywheel. I have seen where some have said a dry input shaft could cause it or a binding pilot bearing. Any of you know if that is a possibility? The pilot bearing is brass so I figured it would just grind down. I think I greased up the input shaft but cant remember for sure..... Dang it!!! Man, I hate the thought of pulling the tranny again�� Looks like I may not have a choice though�.. Any of yous guys got any thought on this? A~

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: anmracing] #493105 10/10/09 04:32 PM 10/10/09 04:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 314 North East Missouri E express enthusiast
express enthusiast E Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 314 North East Missouri	Inspect the clutch, damaged springs, bad face, warped pressure plate? cny25421@centurytel.net 70 Duster Turbo Charged 79 Lil Red Express Bonded Locksmith

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: anmracing] #493106 10/10/09 05:16 PM 10/10/09 05:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,285 West Coast, USA jbc426 master
jbc426 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,285 West Coast, USA	Check for broken motor or trans mounts, worn clutch linkage and/or loose or missing pressure plate bolts. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: anmracing] #493107 10/10/09 06:45 PM 10/10/09 06:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,126 Hunt Valley, Maryland 1fastrunner top fuel
1fastrunner top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,126 Hunt Valley, Maryland	Quote: Dang it!!!!! Now we�re getting massive clutch shudder and it drives me crazy!!!!! Feels like the whole rear end is hopping up and down like a old school lowrider. Car�s been running fine but then I started getting a bad hop when taking off. Reving it helps but I shouldn't have to do that..... No oil puddles under the car so there isn�t oil leaking from the engine or tranny, unusual for a MOPAR, so I doubt there is oil getting on the flywheel. I have seen where some have said a dry input shaft could cause it or a binding pilot bearing. Any of you know if that is a possibility? The pilot bearing is brass so I figured it would just grind down. I think I greased up the input shaft but cant remember for sure..... Dang it!!! Man, I hate the thought of pulling the tranny again�� Looks like I may not have a choice though�.. Any of yous guys got any thought on this? A~ Aren't these problems noticeable with "shaking" from the front end instead of the rear?

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: anmracing] #493108 10/10/09 07:22 PM 10/10/09 07:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,725 Moved to N.E. Tennessee GomangoCuda master
GomangoCuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,725 Moved to N.E. Tennessee	Quote: I think I greased up the input shaft but cant remember for sure..... Dang it!!! You are not supposed to grease the input shaft pilot or splines. The factory service manual says to put grease in the bearing instead. If you grease the input shaft it is almost impossible to get the shaft through the disc hub without getting any on the hub. if you get any on the hub or splines it will sling out on the disc and cause chatter. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: GomangoCuda] #493109 10/11/09 11:56 AM 10/11/09 11:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,791 Hamilton, Ontario Canada Magnum master
Magnum master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,791 Hamilton, Ontario Canada	I've always smeared a bit on the throwout bearing sleeve, face, pivot points on the fork, the input shaft spline, pilot bushing or bearing and never had any issues. If and if it's a problem, a tiny bit of grease on the clutch will burn off in a hurry. It's not a constant feed of grease, just a bit of run off. 69 Super Bee, 93 Mustang LX, 04 Allure Super

Re: Clutch Shudder [Re: GomangoCuda] #493110 10/13/09 10:23 AM 10/13/09 10:23 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 120 Arizona A anmracing OP member
anmracing OP member A Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 120 Arizona	Quote: Quote: I think I greased up the input shaft but cant remember for sure..... Dang it!!! You are not supposed to grease the input shaft pilot or splines. The factory service manual says to put grease in the bearing instead. If you grease the input shaft it is almost impossible to get the shaft through the disc hub without getting any on the hub. if you get any on the hub or splines it will sling out on the disc and cause chatter. Good point. I pretty sure I didn't grease it up but after I had heard about it I started to wonder if I did or not. I know I greased up the bearing though. Solid Tranny mount with poly motor mounts. It is definately from the rear. I'm pulling the tranny out as soon as the weather cools down. A~

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