Quote:

---

We will sort this out adn I will post findings and hopefully keep someone else from having to deal with this.

---

Quote:

---

Had the same problem with the Inline cables, ran down the street to Fine Lines to see Bob and grab a set of the ones he has (not from Inline). Hour later I went back for the second set I needed for my other 71, I had no problems with the install.

In total, I put 4 sets on my Cudas, 2 70 and 2 71.

---

Thanks to both of you guys for your posts. I thought I had read about issues in the past but could not recall. Now that my car is getting closer to being done, I'm starting to pick up some of these types of items. With your help, hopefully I and others will get the right stuff the first time around.

Joe

Quote:

---

Had the same problem here Mike. I called them and they politely made me feel stupid and I finally gave up and made my own cable to make it work. I believe I just made a longer intermediate cable to compensate for the shorter front cable.

---

I live right by Inline Tube and have bought stuff from them for years. Started buying when they were a tiny 2 or 3 man orperation in one of those incubator industrial complexes. Now that they are big and fancy with fancy office and don't have time for regular guy customers. The staff SUXXXXXXXXXX and are rude ( I KNOW retail sales is tough but get a different job or hire different employees if you can't deal with customers). The last 3 purchases were wrong, ON THIER PART (I too have a complete set of ill fitting SS parking brake cables that AREN'T on my Challenger, $$$). I won't deal with them anymore even if they are close. Hopefully they have enough Chevy business that they can tick off or just sell to thier fancy pants rich customers (those are the only people they don't talk down to when you walk up to the counter).

I doubt I'll ever have to worry about becoming a big company BUT if I do, someone please punch me in the mouth if they see ME sporting a Rolex and smoking cigars in a fancy plush office while treating customers like crap. (Guess I am jealous to watch companies become sucessful while treating customers like crap and making ill fitting product. Maybe thats how you BECOME sucessfull? I can think of 5 resto parts companies like that off the top of my head )

Quote:

---

I know the guys at Inline Tube and also had a problem with the main cable that attaches to the E brake pedal. I struggled for an hour or two and gave up, took it back to them and had them add 3 inches to the main line and it was fine. I told them the cable was too short and they said this was the first they heard of it....

---

of course,

deny
deny
deny

Quote:

---

I know the guys at Inline Tube and also had a problem with the main cable that attaches to the E brake pedal. I struggled for an hour or two and gave up, took it back to them and had them add 3 inches to the main line and it was fine. I told them the cable was too short and they said this was the first they heard of it....

---

Quote:

---

OK, I think we have this issue resolved... BUt there are some things to note here- so follow this carefully...

Here is the deal. The Fine Lines front cable is the same length as the original, which is where everyone is having so much trouble. The Intermediate cable from Fine Lines is about 3/4" too long when compared with an original-no big deal here. Neither set provides the correct part that joins the front cable to the intermediate cable.

Here is a photo showing clearly the the shorter one from Inline Tube compared to the correct length one from Fine Lines.

The correct overall length of the inner cable for the front is 55-1/4", which is what the Fine Lines cable is. The Inline Tube cable only measures 52". here is a pic showing this problem.

---

Quote:

---

The reason the Fine Lines intermediate cable seems "floppy" is that the cable diameter is smaller than the factory unit.(on the stainless cable) The cable has a clear rubber/plastic sheathing on it witch brings the diameter up to the factory size. THe factory cable didn't have any rubber on it at all.

The part that connects the front cable to the intermediate cable that came with the kit looks very close to my origonal. Again, mine is a 73. If I have to I can clean up my origonal one but I don't think that is going to be an issue.

---

Quote:

---

The reason the Fine Lines intermediate cable seems "floppy" is that the cable diameter is smaller than the factory unit.(on the stainless cable) The cable has a clear rubber/plastic sheathing on it witch brings the diameter up to the factory size. THe factory cable didn't have any rubber on it at all.

The part that connects the front cable to the intermediate cable that came with the kit looks very close to my origonal. Again, mine is a 73. If I have to I can clean up my origonal one but I don't think that is going to be an issue.

---

Quote:

---

I am needing the complete stainless setup for my 70 Challenger. I am told this is the setup without the intermediate cable. You guys have me paranoid about who to order from and will I get the correct cable set. Are you guys saying that all their E brake cables are wrong, or just the 71 models?

---

Quote:

---

Not sure what you are referring to.

Both sets of lines I have here are steel and the intermediate cables have no "plastic coating" as you say.

---

Quote:

---

I haven't had any problems with the 70 model(no intermediate cable). I have used several of the repops in this application with no problems. The quality wasn't that of the originals, but that seems the norm with ALL repop parts.

MB

---

Quote:

---

Here is the deal....

1971 Cuda.

The cables were purchased from Inline Tube. There is NO way these will work. The front cable is too short. I checked two known original cars and both measure around 16" from where the cable comes through the frame on the drivers side to where it meets the intermediate cable with the Ebrake pedal in the released position(at rest). The cable that was provided by Inline Tube only measures around 12.5" when measured as above.

I took the cable back out and called IT. I measured the cable on the bench and they say that the cable is right and I must be doing something wrong. They claim to sell tons of these and never had a complaint. I don't buy it. Two original cars cannot be wrong. The intermediate cable seems to be the exact length of the originals and the short ends coming through the brackets at the back appear to be the right length as well.

Have any of you guys experienced this??

Thanks

Hello, if you would be so kind as to supply me with you Invoice number for this order so that I may address this issue for you.

Thank you
Marc McGrew
Inline Tube
Sales Manager

Quote:

---

i thought i was the only one that was having issues with my e-brake stuff. not only is the lengths different, did anyone find the ball on the ends of the intermediate cable to be larger than original? i brought one to Ohio 2 years ago and showed someone from inline tube the difference with my cable and a repo. i got the "DUH, are you sure it's original, DUH. um, oh, um uuhhh". then i asked why they don't make them like the originals, i got "uh, oh, uumm, i don't know, duh".

---

Quote:

---

On a side note, we are making the correct firewall grommet for Finelines right now. Currently, no suppliers of cables include the grommet and the one available in the market is no where near correct.

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

OK, I think we have this issue resolved... BUt there are some things to note here- so follow this carefully...

Here is the deal. The Fine Lines front cable is the same length as the original, which is where everyone is having so much trouble. The Intermediate cable from Fine Lines is about 3/4" too long when compared with an original-no big deal here. Neither set provides the correct part that joins the front cable to the intermediate cable.

Here is a photo showing clearly the the shorter one from Inline Tube compared to the correct length one from Fine Lines.

The correct overall length of the inner cable for the front is 55-1/4", which is what the Fine Lines cable is. The Inline Tube cable only measures 52". here is a pic showing this problem.

---

For those that are not familiar with the correct front cable-to-intermediate cable connector, which is unique to 71 B,J,R,W, I started reproducing it 4 years ago. Photo below, or check out my website.

Bill Rolik

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

OK, I think we have this issue resolved... BUt there are some things to note here- so follow this carefully...

Here is the deal. The Fine Lines front cable is the same length as the original, which is where everyone is having so much trouble. The Intermediate cable from Fine Lines is about 3/4" too long when compared with an original-no big deal here. Neither set provides the correct part that joins the front cable to the intermediate cable.

Here is a photo showing clearly the the shorter one from Inline Tube compared to the correct length one from Fine Lines.

The correct overall length of the inner cable for the front is 55-1/4", which is what the Fine Lines cable is. The Inline Tube cable only measures 52". here is a pic showing this problem.

---

For those that are not familiar with the correct front cable-to-intermediate cable connector, which is unique to 71 B,J,R,W, I started reproducing it 4 years ago. Photo below, or check out my website.

Bill Rolik

---

Hi bill we are well aware of you hardware that you sell on ebay at over 3 times the cost of the inline tube hardware.

Inline tubwe hardware set - factory correct $49
all plated the correct colors and 100% correct.

Bills hardware 3 times the cost - Same qualty 3 time the cost - and he only make the hardware no cables -

Inline tube - makes the cables and the hardware for all A /B / E & even C Body.

---

Quote:

---

As always, the customer will decide what works best for him.

Regards,

Bill Rolik

---

AND which business offers the best customer service with the least amount of attitude.

Joe

Quote:

---

All Inline Tube cables come with the grommet installed on the front cables. If you purchased someone else cable set that did not have the grommet, it can be purchased from Inline Tube for $9.00. This can be installed on an assembled cable by using WD40.

---

Quote:

---

Some say that 70 does not have the intermediate cable, others say it does and looking at orders from the past we have sold 80% of the 1970 cables without intermediate and 20 with - we do not know how to explain this.

---

Quote:

---

Mike,
Can they be installed on an assembled cable assembly?

---

Quote:

---

Just to let everyone know I have done more digging. We at line tube have a print for every cable we make that is made off a factory original. If there is a problem with a cable and a customer sends in an original so that we can see the difference we make a print of it and store it on file. We have been doing this for 15 years and this is what we have on file so maybe this can be figured out.

This is cars with the center cable

70-72 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Cuda - Center cable 90 1/8"

73-74 Cuda - Front cable overall length 52"
73-74 Cuda - Center Cable 85 3/4"

70-72 Challenger - Front cable overall length 52"
70-72 Challenger - Center cable 93 5/8"

73-74 Challenger - Front cable overall length 55"
73-74 Challenger - Center Cable 86"

There seems to be 3" in all the numbers between front and center cables, if the 52" cable does not exist why do i have 3 originals. If you are local you are welcome to stop by and we can dump out the box of originals there are several of each type in the box.

I welcome any knowledge that will help

---

Quote:

---

Marc,
can one of my clients bring you some cables he purchased from you for return or exchange?
He will bring his originals to show you the difference.
Jules

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

All Inline Tube cables come with the grommet installed on the front cables. If you purchased someone else cable set that did not have the grommet, it can be purchased from Inline Tube for $9.00. This can be installed on an assembled cable by using WD40.

---

My 70 Cuda Inline front cable did not come with a grommet. What do I have to do to get one?

---

Quote:

---

I have been fighting a problem with a cable set for my 70 challenger. My car does not use an intermediate cable. Both cables attach to the frame bracket inside the driver side rear frame rail. I purchased the set through Year One a couple fo years ago and the supplier was Inline Tube. The problem I am having is that the long cable that goes to the passenger wheel is longer where it attaches to the front cable bracket causing a severe angle. There is about a 1 inch difference in the lenght of the cables. I spoke with Inline Tube and they told me to talk to Year One. I spoke with Year One and they ordered me a replacement passenger cable. It did not fix the problem. My next move will be to try to order a new driver cable. I have rechecked the levers on the brake shoes and they are in an equal position. I don't know what else to do. Has anyone out there experienced any issues like this? Gerry.

---

Quote:

---

So what is the consensus?

It's pretty obvious that the 52" cable you are stocking is wrong, so are you going to make a revision?? Will those who have purchased prior be able to have a new cable made?? I would think it wouldn't be too bad, the sheathing is OK , just a new inner cable??

As stated previously, if you need a detailed measurement of an original from a 71 Cuda, I can provide detailed photos showing all correct dimensions. As this is an original car, I would not want to give up the actual original cable for this purpose.


MB

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

So what is the consensus?

It's pretty obvious that the 52" cable you are stocking is wrong, so are you going to make a revision?? Will those who have purchased prior be able to have a new cable made?? I would think it wouldn't be too bad, the sheathing is OK , just a new inner cable??

As stated previously, if you need a detailed measurement of an original from a 71 Cuda, I can provide detailed photos showing all correct dimensions. As this is an original car, I would not want to give up the actual original cable for this purpose.


MB

---

What it comes down to is that Inline Tube is working on getting original cables in to our hands. I have one of the fine gentleman from this board sending me an original so that we can blueprint it and start working on what and where the problem is.

We are also interested in seeing any of the intermediate cables as we cannot see the front cable length changing and not the intermediate as well. If anyone has one and wants to lend it to us or swap it for a new one let me know.

Marc McGrew
Inline Tube
586-532-1338

---

Quote:

---

I have been fighting a problem with a cable set for my 70 challenger. My car does not use an intermediate cable. Both cables attach to the frame bracket inside the driver side rear frame rail. I purchased the set through Year One a couple fo years ago and the supplier was Inline Tube. The problem I am having is that the long cable that goes to the passenger wheel is longer where it attaches to the front cable bracket causing a severe angle. There is about a 1 inch difference in the lenght of the cables. I spoke with Inline Tube and they told me to talk to Year One. I spoke with Year One and they ordered me a replacement passenger cable. It did not fix the problem. My next move will be to try to order a new driver cable. I have rechecked the levers on the brake shoes and they are in an equal position. I don't know what else to do. Has anyone out there experienced any issues like this? Gerry.

---

Quote:

---

Not to veer off course here,,,,

But while we are discussing the correcting and improving an existing product, some mention needs to be made of the flimsy horseshoe clips that are provided with these kits to retain the cables to the frame in the rear.

Low quality, half as thick, and lacks the tension of the originals. Nothing remotely close to the original part.

MB

---

The center of them tends to break and they fall off, happened more then once to me!

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

So what is the consensus?

It's pretty obvious that the 52" cable you are stocking is wrong, so are you going to make a revision?? Will those who have purchased prior be able to have a new cable made?? I would think it wouldn't be too bad, the sheathing is OK , just a new inner cable??

As stated previously, if you need a detailed measurement of an original from a 71 Cuda, I can provide detailed photos showing all correct dimensions. As this is an original car, I would not want to give up the actual original cable for this purpose.


MB

---

What it comes down to is that Inline Tube is working on getting original cables in to our hands. I have one of the fine gentleman from this board sending me an original so that we can blueprint it and start working on what and where the problem is.

We are also interested in seeing any of the intermediate cables as we cannot see the front cable length changing and not the intermediate as well. If anyone has one and wants to lend it to us or swap it for a new one let me know.

Marc McGrew
Inline Tube
586-532-1338

---

What is the original one he is sending you(application)? Is it 55" or 52"??

MB

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

MB

---

55 incher

logan426

---

Quote:

---

You winked at me

Marc, will have an answer to our wishes soon
with a correct cable length. I believe the
55 inch cable application Inline tube number
550 for 72-74 challenger is the correct cable
for 71 cuda.

logan426

---

Don't flatter yourself.

Actually, the wink is a verification of what we have already determined weeks ago on this thread. yet somehow we are still on a fact finding mission?

I think we need to now direct our attention to these crummy horseshoe clips that are sent with these cables. As was pointed out by Alan G, the center just pops out of these worthless POS clips. Looks like a stamping gaffe to me, or they are possibly used for different applications where a larger diameter cable needs a retention clip. I never use them unless the originals are missing. The 40 year old stuff winds up being better than the new. But that is just the way it is,I guess..

Hey Bill Rolik, chime in here. Are you having these clips made??

MB

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Not to veer off course here,,,,

But while we are discussing the correcting and improving an existing product, some mention needs to be made of the flimsy horseshoe clips that are provided with these kits to retain the cables to the frame in the rear.

Low quality, half as thick, and lacks the tension of the originals. Nothing remotely close to the original part.

MB

---

The center of them tends to break and they fall off, happened more then once to me!

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

Not to veer off course here,,,,

But while we are discussing the correcting and improving an existing product, some mention needs to be made of the flimsy horseshoe clips that are provided with these kits to retain the cables to the frame in the rear.

Low quality, half as thick, and lacks the tension of the originals. Nothing remotely close to the original part.

MB

---

The center of them tends to break and they fall off, happened more then once to me!

---

Then your using the wrong ones.

I ck'd mine this weekend and compared it to an original and they're within .001" / .002" in any dimension

---

Quote:

---

WRONG
they don,t fit because those are brake HOSE clips
not brake CABLE clips


left is cabe clip
right is hose clip

---

Quote:

---

Inline Tube is aware that the ball ends on our parking brake cables are larger than the factory ball. This was done for saftey reasons after having several small ball failures on original cables because of the small surface area. Also all of Inline Tube's hardware is designed to work with the larger ball which is only 1/16 larger in diameter then the original. This small ball end is only on 1 of the 3 to 4 cables and does not affect any function and is not even visable because once it is installed in the hardware you can not see the end of the cable.

---

Quote:

---

Also all of Inline Tube's hardware is designed to work with the larger ball which is only 1/16 larger in diameter then the original.

---

Quote:

---

What are these clips?

---

Quote:

---

It looks like the clip goes in the hole before the cable?

---

Quote:

---

Quote:

---

It looks like the clip goes in the hole before the cable?

---

That would be correct.

---

Thanks Bill!

Quote:

---

Marc McGrew at Inline Tube was kind enough to send me a new grommet for my front emergency brake cable.

Marc, thank you.

Here is a comparison picture showing the differences between Inline's grommet and a used original.

---

Quote:

---

Now for the next challenge. Shoving a 3/4" diameter part through a 11/32" diameter hole.

---

Quote:

---

Now for the next challenge. Shoving a 3/4" diameter part through a 11/32" diameter hole.

---