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Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
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09/21/09 08:12 PM
09/21/09 08:12 PM
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Here is the deal.... 1971 Cuda. The cables were purchased from Inline Tube. There is NO way these will work. The front cable is too short. I checked two known original cars and both measure around 16" from where the cable comes through the frame on the drivers side to where it meets the intermediate cable with the Ebrake pedal in the released position(at rest). The cable that was provided by Inline Tube only measures around 12.5" when measured as above. I took the cable back out and called IT. I measured the cable on the bench and they say that the cable is right and I must be doing something wrong. They claim to sell tons of these and never had a complaint.  I don't buy it. Two original cars cannot be wrong. The intermediate cable seems to be the exact length of the originals and the short ends coming through the brackets at the back appear to be the right length as well. Have any of you guys experienced this?? Thanks  MB
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: HPMike]
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09/21/09 08:39 PM
09/21/09 08:39 PM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
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Every kit I've bought for 71 Ebodys has not worked. I never thought of mearsuring the front cable,  I always thought it was the intermediate cable causing the problems...
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: Snoopy]
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09/21/09 09:36 PM
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Alan: Trust me, the issue isn't the intermediate cable, it's the front cable. You could "cheat" it with a longer intermediate cable, but it still will not be right. I have a stash of over 100 NOS brake cables and I am sure I have a front for an ebody in there. Doesn't matter, the cable isn't the same as the original, and I have already verified that. Snoopy. Even though I am 110% sure I have it correct, technically, you could route the sheathing any way you want to. If the ends are properly placed where they should be(in the e brake mechanism and in the dedicated hole in the frame for the front cable) then all that's left is the inner cable itself. If it's too short then you are SOL. I have two known original 71 Ebodies at my disposal, so it's not hard to figure out what it should be. Just wondering how many others have run into problems. We will sort this out and I will post findings and hopefully keep someone else from having to deal with this. Anyone with any other experiences care to offer any input, I am all ears(eyes?).  MB
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: mymcodebee]
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09/23/09 08:32 AM
09/23/09 08:32 AM
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Warren, MI
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Had the same problem here Mike. I called them and they politely made me feel stupid and I finally gave up and made my own cable to make it work. I believe I just made a longer intermediate cable to compensate for the shorter front cable.
I live right by Inline Tube and have bought stuff from them for years. Started buying when they were a tiny 2 or 3 man orperation in one of those incubator industrial complexes. Now that they are big and fancy with fancy office and don't have time for regular guy customers. The staff SUXXXXXXXXXX and are rude ( I KNOW retail sales is tough but get a different job or hire different employees if you can't deal with customers). The last 3 purchases were wrong, ON THIER PART (I too have a complete set of ill fitting SS parking brake cables that AREN'T on my Challenger, $$$). I won't deal with them anymore even if they are close. Hopefully they have enough Chevy business that they can tick off or just sell to thier fancy pants rich customers (those are the only people they don't talk down to when you walk up to the counter).
I doubt I'll ever have to worry about becoming a big company BUT if I do, someone please punch me in the mouth if they see ME sporting a Rolex and smoking cigars in a fancy plush office while treating customers like crap. (Guess I am jealous to watch companies become sucessful while treating customers like crap and making ill fitting product. Maybe thats how you BECOME sucessfull?  I can think of 5 resto parts companies like that off the top of my head )
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: HPMike]
#475897
09/23/09 09:26 AM
09/23/09 09:26 AM
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Pinelands , NJ
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i thought i was the only one that was having issues with my e-brake stuff. not only is the lengths different, did anyone find the ball on the ends of the intermediate cable to be larger than original? i brought one to Ohio 2 years ago and showed someone from inline tube the difference with my cable and a repo. i got the "DUH, are you sure it's original, DUH. um, oh, um uuhhh". then i asked why they don't make them like the originals, i got "uh, oh, uumm, i don't know, duh".
one thing i've learned from restoring my Challenger
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every repo part i've put on my car, i had to modify in some way shape or form
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: drmopar]
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09/23/09 10:30 AM
09/23/09 10:30 AM
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I know the guys at Inline Tube and also had a problem with the main cable that attaches to the E brake pedal. I struggled for an hour or two and gave up, took it back to them and had them add 3 inches to the main line and it was fine. I told them the cable was too short and they said this was the first they heard of it.... 
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: drmopar]
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09/23/09 10:30 AM
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I know the guys at Inline Tube and also had a problem with the main cable that attaches to the E brake pedal. I struggled for an hour or two and gave up, took it back to them and had them add 3 inches to the main line and it was fine. I told them the cable was too short and they said this was the first they heard of it....
Strange, that's what I have been saying all along-all they told me is that I am doing something wrong and that they have sold thousands of these cable sets without a single complaint. Uhmmm, right....
MB
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: HPMike]
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09/23/09 02:53 PM
09/23/09 02:53 PM
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WOW! I sure wish this topic came about months ago. I bought a complete new cable kit from inline. Probably wont attempt installing it for many more months. I guess Im going to the garage and digging up the old cable to compare it to the new pieces. 
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Re: Issues with repop E body brake cables.....
[Re: gomangoRTSE]
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09/24/09 07:10 PM
09/24/09 07:10 PM
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Well, I just went and grabbed my old cables to compare to the new Fine Lines ones I just got. I know the OP was talking about Inline Tube, but I thought that this would still apply. My car is a 73 so it has an intermediate cable. I also ordered all stainless so there are probablly differences between what I got and the OE cables they sell. Here are the two origonal rear cables next to the new ones. They are the correct length.  The origonal left and right side cables were not the same. Here you can see the difference. One even has some yellow paint still visable on the clip. Both new rear cables are the same in the Fine Lines kit.  This is the front cable. It is also the correct length.  Finally, here is the intermediate cable. The cable itself is the correct length but the bracket doesn't look like the origonal. There is a lot more curve to the new one. 
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