Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: Cudakid]
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09/16/09 07:20 PM
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Welcome Matt, Here you go, A show winner from The Finer Details Talk to Ken Mosier. You will be more than Happy I Am Multi Show winner Bob Conca
Mom & Dad let me buy a brand new 70 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pack Super Trac Pack when I was 17
(Robert what is a 440 Six-Pack)
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: Cudakid]
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09/16/09 07:28 PM
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The debate over whether to go OE vs. overrestored has many sides. The OE type resto is painstaking, frustrating, and usually the most costly. Part availablity for these types of restos are such that unless the car is a high option 6 pack or Hemi car, you will be in for well more than the value of the finished car when it's done. But far be it from me or anyone else to tell anyone which car is worthy of a high dollar resto. It's the choice of the individual.
The "overrestored" style of restoration is sometimes more practical. Some liberties can be taken such that the finished product becomes more easy to live with. A true OE type of paint job, for instance, would be an orange peely acrylic enamel- rather than the slick and durable urethanes used today. You also wouldn't have to mortgage the kids college fund to find the correct, dated exhaust system for the car.
As for value, that's kind of difficult to say. I have seen some overrestored and even tasefully modified cars sell for more than their more correct counterparts. One instance that comes to mind is a certain red A12 Superbee that I did a bunch of work to some time back. This was a car with headers, frame connectors, a hard running stroker motor and a really nice paint job. This car sold for much more than comparitive OE restored cars at that time at the BJ auction. The other(and most important) consideration is what you plan to do with it when it's done. Most guys that go "true OE" wind up pushing the car on and off the trailer with little booties on the tires for fear of disturbing all of the correct parts and finishes which will deteriorate quickly if prepared the way these cars were when new. And you can see how that would get old pretty quick.
At the end of the day it's your car and do with it whatever makes you happy. Talk to others that you see at car shows and have cars that fit your criteria and ask them their opinion.
Good Luck and let's see some pics of that fish!
MB
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: HPMike]
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09/16/09 08:11 PM
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The debate over whether to go OE vs. overrestored has many sides. The OE type resto is painstaking, frustrating, and usually the most costly. Part availablity for these types of restos are such that unless the car is a high option 6 pack or Hemi car, you will be in for well more than the value of the finished car when it's done. But far be it from me or anyone else to tell anyone which car is worthy of a high dollar resto. It's the choice of the individual.
The "overrestored" style of restoration is sometimes more practical. Some liberties can be taken such that the finished product becomes more easy to live with. A true OE type of paint job, for instance, would be an orange peely acrylic enamel- rather than the slick and durable urethanes used today. You also wouldn't have to mortgage the kids college fund to find the correct, dated exhaust system for the car.
As for value, that's kind of difficult to say. I have seen some overrestored and even tasefully modified cars sell for more than their more correct counterparts. One instance that comes to mind is a certain red A12 Superbee that I did a bunch of work to some time back. This was a car with headers, frame connectors, a hard running stroker motor and a really nice paint job. This car sold for much more than comparitive OE restored cars at that time at the BJ auction. The other(and most important) consideration is what you plan to do with it when it's done. Most guys that go "true OE" wind up pushing the car on and off the trailer with little booties on the tires for fear of disturbing all of the correct parts and finishes which will deteriorate quickly if prepared the way these cars were when new. And you can see how that would get old pretty quick.
At the end of the day it's your car and do with it whatever makes you happy. Talk to others that you see at car shows and have cars that fit your criteria and ask them their opinion.
Good Luck and let's see some pics of that fish!
MB
Mike is giving you good advice Matt. Most important is that it is your car and you should have it the way you like.
First decision is if you are going to drive it or only show it, and where. At the smaller venue shows, most will not know the difference in OE vs. great quality show car. This is always my first question to my customers. I have found that other than those that want museum quality, most want their car to stand tall around the other cars. If you decide to go OE, a lot of the effort put in does not get seen or noticed. Figure out what you want, your budget and then we can better advise you.
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: TrueTripleX]
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09/16/09 08:41 PM
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I agree with the above. You should determine what you want first and then search for a shop that suits your needs. If you want pure OE, prepare to pay out the nose for the rare parts. Here are some of the best shops in the country you should consider. 1) Roger Gibson Restorations, MO 2) Paul Jacobs Restorations, IN 3) Mike Mancini Restorations, RI 4) Rocket Restorations, WA 5) Resto Rick, WI 6) Finer Details, IN I see you are located in Mass. I would highly recommend Mike Mancini as he is in RI, close to you. He is just about the best on the east coast. Post some pics!
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: Cudakid]
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09/17/09 09:02 PM
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Matt, If you are willing to go a bit further south then I can recommend Walt Clark and his crew. They did a base coat/clear coat in the original color for my 68 Road Runner and it came out sweet!! http://www.clarkclassic.com/Jim 68 Hemi Road Runner
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: 68jim]
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09/17/09 09:10 PM
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cudakidd,where in mass. are you? the big name in my area is Blair Smith on 106(pm me for his number)he does nothing but restorations is is by far one of the most detail oriented mopar body guys around the mass.area. good luck in your project Darren. he is actually working now on the basket case general lee that was bought by a member here for ridiculous money but ended up being taped together,literally,there is a thread around here somewhere
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: cataclysm80]
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09/17/09 09:43 PM
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Try Rocket Restorations in Olympia Washington, they can take your car to ANY level you desire and will work with you in getting the car to the level that meets your budget and level of satisfaction. They recently restored am OE Gold winning 1971 Hemi Cuda (scored Gold by not just one, but BOTH of the Nations top two highest rated judging bodies). The distance & transportation may seem daunting but don't let that get in the way of quality work, the cost will be minimal in the overall scope of a ground up restoration. Ask them for references, they can offer many. See pics at www.rocketresto.com
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: gtx6970]
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09/17/09 10:28 PM
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I guess the real question is how much are you willing to pay? It is no problem figuring out what you want or who to do it, the problem is when it comes time to shell out the $$$$$$$$$ Whatever the price quote you get just go ahead and tack on another 30% - 40% "surprise" money for the "we couldn't find a good _______ (fill in blank) for a decent price so we had to pay double what it usually costs or "We got the car back from the stripper and we have some bad news........ If you're dreaming that it's not going to cost more than what you think, well then.......you're dreaming You can spend triple or more to restore a car the way you want than what it is actually worth but if that's what fires your rocket So how much are you willing to spend, that's what should determine your restoration IMO and don't forget the 30% - 40% extra MikeR
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Re: Looking for Detail Oriented Resto Shop
[Re: MoparABE]
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09/18/09 09:29 PM
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My reccomendation is for Troy Angelly / Paul Jacobs for detail work. Their cars have won OE gold the last 4 years at the Mopar Nats with several getting best of show including this year. Troy 618-926-5921 Paul 812-963-5219
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