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So how did you race with a clutch flite?
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds. Burn out box procedure? Launch procedure? Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal? 
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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08/14/09 10:47 PM
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Violently  With no torque converter to cushion shifts they HAMMER the driveline. Not my idea of a street trans, and I sure wouldn't want to race one that didn't have bolt in sprag, good drums, etc. And 2 trans blankies 
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds.
Burn out box procedure?
Launch procedure?
Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal?
burn outs like regular, start it in second and shift it into high  Launch procedure, rev it to where you want to let the clutch out(the clutch drives the front pump now so there is no internal trans pressure until the clutch is released, it acts like like a stick set up  ) and shift it at the RPM you want like a regular 3 speed automatic Real old technology, best left in the old days  The new converters are way better now than back then, that is probally the main reason there(clutch type automatic trans.) no longer around or in use today 
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: theraif]
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08/15/09 01:16 AM
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So can the trans shift on it's own or does it have to be manually shifted?
If I ever actually found one close to me, I had considered that putting one in my stick car might be kinda cool. But not if it cost a ton and was more likely to break stuff.
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds.
Burn out box procedure?
Launch procedure?
Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal?
Bob, Peanut Stephens, (your neighbor) had one in a Devin sports car. It was equipped with a Hemi and injectors. He had the car at World of Wheels this year. The car has not been raced in over 30 years but he made a pass at Clay City last year. 426 Hemi with a NASCAR type bathtub intake and 4500 now insted of injectors. He lives between Greenup and Greenbow Lake. I will get his phone number for you.
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds.
Burn out box procedure?
Launch procedure?
Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal?
burn outs like regular, start it in second and shift it into high Launch procedure, rev it to where you want to let the clutch out(the clutch drives the front pump now so there is no internal trans pressure until the clutch is released, it acts like like a stick set up ) and shift it at the RPM you want like a regular 3 speed automatic Real old technology, best left in the old days The new converters are way better now than back then, that is probally the main reason there(clutch type automatic trans.) no longer around or in use today
I believe the pressure plate drives the pump gears so the pump is always making pressure to keep the forward clutch applied and the input shaft is spline into the clutch disc that's what keeps the car from moving when clutch is pressed
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
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I wish I had pictures of the one a good friend of mine blew up at the Halloween Classic 20 some years ago. It was in a high 8 second front engine dragster. It hit a guy in the grandstands about 20 rows up. Very dangerous combo.
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Evil Spirit]
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I'm about to give the "poor mans lenco" a try. Of course it takes a ton of money (like Fred has) to make the thing even remotely safe. I have about 3k into it so far. 426 hemi, stack hilborn efi, 64 "ratcharger" polara. Clutchflite with a mcleod soft lok clutch, aa billet planet,lba valve body, billet drum, 16 element sprag.
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Frito]
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds.
Burn out box procedure?
Launch procedure?
Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal?
Bob, Peanut Stephens, (your neighbor) had one in a Devin sports car. It was equipped with a Hemi and injectors. He had the car at World of Wheels this year. The car has not been raced in over 30 years but he made a pass at Clay City last year. 426 Hemi with a NASCAR type bathtub intake and 4500 now insted of injectors. He lives between Greenup and Greenbow Lake. I will get his phone number for you.
i'm sure Willard would know alot about them and he is a super nice guy to talk to.
when i spoke to him last year at Clay City he was talking about going with a Lenco but was having trouble getting the combo he wanted from the vendor.
that was also the same day they forgot to put the radiator cap on and water got under the slicks on the track and the car got loose and he scraped the wall with the rear of the car knocking the windup key off it.
here's a photo of the car that was taken about 2 years ago with the injectors still on it.
with the history and rarity behind that car it should be in a museum.
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Re: So how did you race with a clutch flite?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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08/15/09 10:14 PM
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Seen one for sale in the classifieds.
Burn out box procedure?
Launch procedure?
Just wondering, hate to sound dumb, but I dont know how it works. I assume you launch with a clutch, and shift as normal?
PULL YOUR FEET WAY BACK...... 
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You are correct sir,The release levers turn the pump and the input is turned by the disc.With todays clutch technology you could make this into a highly consistent bracket transmission.Todays clutch setups take the "violent" out of the launch.
