|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: AndyF]
#432228
08/28/09 03:53 PM
08/28/09 03:53 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,875
communist bloc of new jersey
jamesc
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,875
communist bloc of new jersey
|
Quote:
Personally I don't see any reason for anyone to ever build another engine with Mopar rods in it, SB or BB. Just use the BBC or SBC rods for everything.
amen to that, puzzles me to no end 
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: BPE]
#432229
08/28/09 04:26 PM
08/28/09 04:26 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,300
Northern Indiana
Dunnuck Racing
master
|
master
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,300
Northern Indiana
|
Quote:
How about a 4.125" stroke with a 6.200" sj chevy rod aroud 1.310 CH. With that piston it will still use a standrd ring pack, and I just happen to have the last of the prototypes in a 360 main.
Thanks to BPE,I had the opportunity to test the first one for him.Vic(sst/3040) did spend a lot of time on the assembly for me.
It is performing pretty well,and has a lot more in it,Eddy heads,flat tappet cam and 3070 pounds.
And the chassis just plain has not been up to par yet.
If I can ever get back to the track,I am confident these numbers will be improved upon.
Just wanted to give my thanks to both of them.
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: AndyF]
#432230
09/02/09 01:05 PM
09/02/09 01:05 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,465
So Cal
autoxcuda
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,465
So Cal
|
 A Small Block for an A body track car (road race) IS in my future. I just have the original ring-jobbed OE bore 340 in my car. It definitely needs motor attention before  But I still beat it mercilessly  I don't have a budget for $3000 cranks. I like the idea of using Chevy circle track parts to keep the costs down and the weight down and have something quick to rev. I don't/won't have a chassis to fully take advantage of 500+ HP, so I don't need the weight and costs of 500+ hp parts. I like the idea of keeping the revs down to save the valvetrain and avoiding the oiling issues with smallblocks. I good SB Oil pan is an issue too. When I had an acomplished road racer (12hrs Sebring) drive my car at Willow Springs, the pan just sucked dry or foamed and I had to wait 30 minutes to get the valve ticking to go away. It has just a stock unbaffled oil pan. I haven't sucked the pan dry, but I'm more a novice driver and I'm a little easier on it than he was. I need reliability to drive 1 hour to the track at 3800 rpm, race it on the track from 8am to 5pm, then drive it home at 3800 rpm. There's enough other chassis and driving things to worry about at the track, so I don't want be fiddling with the motor. 
Last edited by autoxcuda; 09/02/09 01:30 PM.
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: AndyF]
#432236
10/30/09 02:01 AM
10/30/09 02:01 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,025
Las Vegas, NV
dodgeboy11
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,025
Las Vegas, NV
|
Interesting topic here. I'm building something similiar. I have a scat 4" crank with the stage 1 lightening. Weighs in at about 53 lbs. Bobweight with the HEAVY scat H beam rods comes in at 1903 grams. Wiseco protru pistons. Heads are Edelbrock LA style with 5/16" stemmed 2.080/1.600 valves. Intake's flowing about 315 so far. Might see more but not at a lift that's worthwhile. Super victor intake, heads will be ported to a W5 port window. Compression'll be about 11.5:1. Planning on a solid roller cam with the LS1 firing order but money is an issue if I want to see this thing run in the next 5 years. T&D rockers will be a must for the RPM I expect this thing to turn. Engine should be set back so I can run the Canton rear sump road race pan and a T56 will back it up.
As to the reason why the crank companies won't change to chevy journals, it costs money to change things. The pencil pushing pansies that be don't like to spend money if they can't see the returns immediately.
As a side note, I ran a 408 with Eagle I beam rods that the bobweight came in at about 1840. Same pistons.
Last edited by dodgeboy11; 10/30/09 02:03 AM.
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: BPE]
#432239
10/30/09 11:35 AM
10/30/09 11:35 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 30,995
Oregon
AndyF
OP
I Win
|
OP
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 30,995
Oregon
|
Quote:
Looks good. And I liked your big block book. Thanks
Glad to hear you liked the book. Be sure to send me some pictures of your project when you have time.
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: jcc]
#432241
11/04/09 12:17 AM
11/04/09 12:17 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,025
Las Vegas, NV
dodgeboy11
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,025
Las Vegas, NV
|
Quote:
Quote:
Heads are Edelbrock LA style with 5/16" stemmed 2.080/1.600 valves. Intake's flowing about 315 so far.
315 sounds really good, correct?  
And totally not worth the effort when I easily hit 325 with some oval Indy heads. If I hadn't already had the heads and more time than money...
Don't have the holes milled for pushrods yet...
Chamber's shined up a bit to see if I can make a bit more power on a bit less timing.
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: AndyF]
#432243
11/16/09 04:51 AM
11/16/09 04:51 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,465
So Cal
autoxcuda
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,465
So Cal
|
Quote:
The new bellhousing from QuickTime showed up a few days ago. Nice looking piece and it is about 12 lbs lighter than the Lakewood housing that was there.
This bellhousing has a dual bolt pattern so the stock transmission bolts on and so does a Doug Nash 5 speed. QuickTime has bellhousings for other transmissions including Richmond, Jerico, Muncie, TKO, T56, etc.
It Tim going to run a Richmond in his Valiant? I thought he had a 833 before? What road racing clutches are you looking at?
|
|
|
Re: SB stroker options for track car
[Re: autoxcuda]
#432245
11/16/09 11:13 AM
11/16/09 11:13 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 30,995
Oregon
AndyF
OP
I Win
|
OP
I Win
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 30,995
Oregon
|
Quote:
Quote:
The new bellhousing from QuickTime showed up a few days ago. Nice looking piece and it is about 12 lbs lighter than the Lakewood housing that was there.
This bellhousing has a dual bolt pattern so the stock transmission bolts on and so does a Doug Nash 5 speed. QuickTime has bellhousings for other transmissions including Richmond, Jerico, Muncie, TKO, T56, etc.
It Tim going to run a Richmond in his Valiant? I thought he had a 833 before? What road racing clutches are you looking at?
No, Tim is going to run a Mopar 4 speed with the full aluminum treatment from Passon Performance. I was just doing a little mockup work with my Doug Nash while I had the parts available.
When I installed the Nash into my B body car I had to custom modify the bellhousing because nothing existed off the shelf. So I was happy to see that a person can now get a turn key solution from QuickTime.
|
|
|
|
|
