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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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Get a Winch.  It is a good investment, you wont regret it.... I dont have a "escape" door on mine,,,so getting in and out would be tough. I LOVE having a winch....use it all the time...makes loading and unloading a breeze,,,, What size trailer did you get ? looks nice,,,with all the diamond plate... Doug 
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: 69CHARGERMD]
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07/04/09 08:06 PM
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Get a Winch.
It is a good investment, you wont regret it....
I dont have a "escape" door on mine,,,so getting in and out would be tough.
I LOVE having a winch....use it all the time...makes loading and unloading a breeze,,,,
What size trailer did you get ?
looks nice,,,with all the diamond plate...
Doug
i have a 48" door but upfront.
i got a 24ft DTI trailer,2X5K axles,extended tongue.the diamond plate i got a deal on.14 4X4 sheets for 120$ [.060]that were not cut too good though. 
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/04/09 11:45 PM
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no realy i have a hand crank 1.
You'll use that......once. Then you'll go buy a winch. The come-along will make you want to shoot yourself, ask me how I know.LOL
Trailer looks great Mike! I got tired of all the work with the box trailer and the big expensive truck it requires to pull it, I switched to a Durango and borrowed an open trailer yesterday, seemed more relaxing and less work, = more fun. 
Good luck with it, they are nice when it rains. Plus you can unload it when you feel like it.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/04/09 11:53 PM
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what size winch , 3000 or 4000lb ? for a 3400lb car.
and who has the best deals?
I need to get one also
No you don't have to go that big,i've got a 2500lb winch in my trailer and have had no problem winching my car in. 70 plymouth GTX. 
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: ProSport]
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07/05/09 06:38 AM
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no realy i have a hand crank 1.
You'll use that......once. Then you'll go buy a winch. The come-along will make you want to shoot yourself, ask me how I know.LOL
Trailer looks great Mike! I got tired of all the work with the box trailer and the big expensive truck it requires to pull it, I switched to a Durango and borrowed an open trailer yesterday, seemed more relaxing and less work, = more fun.
Good luck with it, they are nice when it rains. Plus you can unload it when you feel like it.
all the time i saw you and others with inclosed trailer and i had my open for 18yrs.  we will see how things work with the boat winch by hand.i cant see spending 500$ for a winch,battery at this point.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 08:13 AM
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I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
Chris from New Jersey
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: fig426]
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07/05/09 08:20 AM
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I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
tractor suply huh.  my car weighs 4,000lbs but it took minimum force to wench it in.if i get a splitter pulley i can double the pulling by increasing the ratio.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/05/09 08:43 AM
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get a winch  .  what till its 95 degrees and you raced till midnite then start cranking by hand .I have a electric winch with a 30' cord for 7 years they make the remote controll you don't have a cable going to get that now.IMO you say you got a good deal so spend some more on the next thing to make your racing fun and  easier. also you can wire through 12v truck harness to winch . don
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 10:09 AM
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ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch. 
You are a crazy man!! Have fun LOL
Diego
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: 10 o to go]
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07/05/09 10:11 AM
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Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how.  i dont want dammage from bouncing so thanks for the input on that!
did you get the car in thier with that winch and chain strap setup ? looks like you would have to reset several times and remove those chains and straps because it wont get up inside trailer enough .I have a 24 ft your winch is just at the fender i assume you cant get in to set park and would block wheels several times to set those chains are going to scratch the new floor.
We all gave our opinions since you posted it that what these sites do .
 PROBLEM SOLVERS
OH YA i had to reset the cable,wheel chuck several times but will get a longer cable.just keeping it simple.i do appreciat the help. 
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: Diego_Ted]
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07/05/09 11:16 AM
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ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch.
You are a crazy man!! Have fun LOL
Diego
thanks.i think.
crazy?maybe.untel you have walked in my shoes you may not understand.to each there own way.
determined yes.to do it the way i want.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 11:24 AM
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Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how. i dont want dammage from bouncing so thanks for the input on that!
did you get the car in thier with that winch and chain strap setup ? looks like you would have to reset several times and remove those chains and straps because it wont get up inside trailer enough .I have a 24 ft your winch is just at the fender i assume you cant get in to set park and would block wheels several times to set those chains are going to scratch the new floor.
We all gave our opinions since you posted it that what these sites do .
PROBLEM SOLVERS
OH YA i had to reset the cable,wheel chuck several times but will get a longer cable.just keeping it simple.i do appreciat the help.
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Take the good advice and get a winch, Diego got his from harbor frieght, I think it is an 8000# for around 300.00 its working great no problems.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: formula S]
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07/05/09 11:38 AM
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Mike I have a Superwinch 4500 just sitting here, you're welcome to use it til I get my trailer, which could possibly take a couple months as I have to sell my 91 Firebird and then special order the trailer. Let me know, only takes 2 bolts to bolt it down.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: ProSport]
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07/05/09 11:43 AM
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Mike I have a Superwinch 4500 just sitting here, you're welcome to use it til I get my trailer, which could possibly take a couple months as I have to sell my 91 Firebird and then special order the trailer. Let me know, only takes 2 bolts to bolt it down.
thanks for the offer Bob but i will only get out maybe 2/3 times this yr.nobox and the mopar finals at norwalk and a points meet or T&T there.
your offer is ver kind!
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 12:22 PM
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I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
tractor suply huh. my car weighs 4,000lbs but it took minimum force to wench it in.if i get a splitter pulley i can double the pulling by increasing the ratio.
You wont need a 4000# winch to pull your car onto the trailor. As you found out it took some minimal force to pull your car up that very gradual incline of your encloseds ramp. It probably took less then 500# of force.
Your boat hand crank will work fine. It will just take more effort.
You by far Dont have to buy a $500 dollar winch setup.
I bought a HF 2000# winch on sale for $39 bucs that worked great for winching my #3000 ride up Steep ramps. It even pulled a couple of #4500 plus rides up onto my trailor too with a little Human assist.
The same winches sell for $49 now. After years of great easy use I gave it to a friend. I up graded to a #3500 $89 winch. Its alot stronger but it Sucks. If you dont keep tension on the cable during unwind, the cable unspools itself and Jams.
I wish I had my $39 winch back  Your type Hand crank sells for $20 bucs at HF. The one you have is free.
Congrats on the new enclosed it looks nice. I love the diamond plate. mike
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: Sport440]
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07/05/09 01:05 PM
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Thanks Mike! i love the diamond plate also.i got it in just in time to move my daughter and 2 grand kids from florida to ohio in it last month.by the way i got the boat winch for free.some1 threw it out new in the box.single gear 1200lb but it will do the job.with it also i can put 50ft of cable on and just keep cranking instead of rowing with the comealong.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 01:23 PM
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Why not just drive it in and climb out the window? That's what I do.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 01:41 PM
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Lay off the Jungle Juice then
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/05/09 01:52 PM
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Lay off the Jungle Juice then
is that your secret? i am doing what i can not to gain#'s and have lost 8 in the last few months.i will keep working at it.
good luck this week racing.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/05/09 02:34 PM
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Man I must be doing something wrong, I drive mine all the way in and get out the door , I'm only 6'2" 350+. 04 Pace Shadow 28 ft. I do remove the swing out bar first though.
i have not tried getting in/out yet.with the angle of the door and the door bar[not moveable]i am sure it will be a sight.i am 6'2" 230#.i will give it a try this week.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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Don't forget to set the tongue weight. Should be between 10 and 15% of the gross trailer weight. You will be a happier driver with it closer to 15%.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/05/09 03:56 PM
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Don't forget to set the tongue weight. Should be between 10 and 15% of the gross trailer weight. You will be a happier driver with it closer to 15%.
i am not sure how to get it close but i measured from my old trailer posession over the wheels,distances.the old 1 was only 20ft including the tongue. so i have 8 more ft pluss the tongue in front.i use load springs on the hitch to help tongue weight.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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07/05/09 06:18 PM
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thanks for the offer Bob but i will only get out maybe 2/3 times this yr.nobox and the mopar finals at norwalk and a points meet or T&T there.
your offer is ver kind!
No problem, let me know if you change your mind.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
[Re: blownzoom440]
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what are you towing with?
you had to ask. 
my dakota extended cab 4.7L  i am gunna give it a try.car&trailer 8,000lbs.
WRONG!! I can say one thing, Your Honest. You can tow it but I wouldnt go fast or far. But , You already know that Im sure.
Whats the truck itself rated for by its owners manuel. mike 
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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Man I must be doing something wrong, I drive mine all the way in and get out the door , I'm only 6'2" 350+. 04 Pace Shadow 28 ft. I do remove the swing out bar first though.
Thats what I do and I have a elec-winch ???
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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what are you towing with?
you had to ask.
my dakota extended cab 4.7L i am gunna give it a try.car&trailer 8,000lbs.
WRONG!! I can say one thing, Your Honest. You can tow it but I wouldnt go fast or far. But , You already know that Im sure.
Whats the truck itself rated for by its owners manuel. mike
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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thanks Bob.i will have to see about a new truck next yr.how much is a trans? i will have to ask the guy who does my 727 what he would charge.i gave the trans a test pulling about 2,000lbs of ferniture from florida& through verginia mountains.
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/06/09 12:08 AM
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Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
Me likes your 64!!
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Re: test fit car,trailer today.
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07/06/09 02:32 AM
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Mike.. Drive it in and have someone help you center it. Then use a tennis ball on a string and hang it from the ceiling so that it touches the windshield where you have a mark. Leave the tennis ball permanently so you will always put it the same place.. Good Luck.  Chris.. 
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