Posted By: blownzoom440
test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 07:03 PM
it will be hard to get out if i dont keep to 1 side.
test fit car,trailer today.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 07:07 PM
i triedout the comealong also incase i ever need it.i have a hand crank unit to install later from a boat trailer.
Posted By: cudabunch
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 07:52 PM
Nice trailer and the fun of getting in and out of the car makes a winch look real good.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 08:02 PM
i have about 8" on each side so keeping to 1 side should help a lot.it will take some getting use to pulling in though maybe rubbing the wheel well if it wont hit the fender. 
Posted By: Dart Racer
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 08:54 PM
Be careful having it too close to the passenger side. Ask me how I know..... What happend to me was the car bounced and the door hit the fender well 
Posted By: BILLYJAY
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 09:06 PM
Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 09:15 PM
Quote:
Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how.
i dont want dammage from bouncing so thanks for the input on that!
Posted By: 69CHARGERMD
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 11:31 PM
Get a Winch.
It is a good investment, you wont regret it....
I dont have a "escape" door on mine,,,so getting in and out would be tough.
I LOVE having a winch....use it all the time...makes loading and unloading a breeze,,,,
What size trailer did you get ?
looks nice,,,with all the diamond plate...
Doug
It is a good investment, you wont regret it....
I dont have a "escape" door on mine,,,so getting in and out would be tough.
I LOVE having a winch....use it all the time...makes loading and unloading a breeze,,,,
What size trailer did you get ?
looks nice,,,with all the diamond plate...
Doug
Posted By: blown572dart
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/04/09 11:50 PM
Quote:
Get a Winch
Doug
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:06 AM
Quote:
Get a Winch.
It is a good investment, you wont regret it....
I dont have a "escape" door on mine,,,so getting in and out would be tough.
I LOVE having a winch....use it all the time...makes loading and unloading a breeze,,,,
What size trailer did you get ?
looks nice,,,with all the diamond plate...
Doug
i have a 48" door but upfront.
i got a 24ft DTI trailer,2X5K axles,extended tongue.the diamond plate i got a deal on.14 4X4 sheets for 120$ [.060]that were not cut too good though.
Posted By: nss guy
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:12 AM
what size winch , 3000 or 4000lb ? for a 3400lb car.
and who has the best deals?
I need to get one also
and who has the best deals?
I need to get one also
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:19 AM
Quote:Quote:
Get a Winch
Doug
no realy i have a hand crank 1.
Posted By: ProSport
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:45 AM
Quote:
no realy i have a hand crank 1.
You'll use that......once. Then you'll go buy a winch. The come-along will make you want to shoot yourself, ask me how I know.LOL
Trailer looks great Mike! I got tired of all the work with the box trailer and the big expensive truck it requires to pull it, I switched to a Durango and borrowed an open trailer yesterday, seemed more relaxing and less work, = more fun.
Good luck with it, they are nice when it rains. Plus you can unload it when you feel like it.
Posted By: 604 Hemi GTX
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:53 AM
Quote:No you don't have to go that big,i've got a 2500lb winch in my trailer and have had no problem winching my car in. 70 plymouth GTX.
what size winch , 3000 or 4000lb ? for a 3400lb car.
and who has the best deals?
I need to get one also
Posted By: 340RICK
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 04:01 AM
I have a 3500 lb super winch in my trailer I just need a new battery 
Its no fun pulling a Dukes of Hazzard climbing in and out of the window while inside the trailer.
The boat winch and comealong like Prosport said will make you
Its no fun pulling a Dukes of Hazzard climbing in and out of the window while inside the trailer.
The boat winch and comealong like Prosport said will make you
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 10:38 AM
Quote:all the time i saw you and others with inclosed trailer and i had my open for 18yrs.
Quote:
no realy i have a hand crank 1.
You'll use that......once. Then you'll go buy a winch. The come-along will make you want to shoot yourself, ask me how I know.LOL
Trailer looks great Mike! I got tired of all the work with the box trailer and the big expensive truck it requires to pull it, I switched to a Durango and borrowed an open trailer yesterday, seemed more relaxing and less work, = more fun.
Good luck with it, they are nice when it rains. Plus you can unload it when you feel like it.
we will see how things work with the boat winch by hand.i cant see spending 500$ for a winch,battery at this point.
Posted By: fig426
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:13 PM
I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:20 PM
Quote:
I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
tractor suply huh.
my car weighs 4,000lbs but it took minimum force to wench it in.if i get a splitter pulley i can double the pulling by increasing the ratio.
Posted By: 10 o to go
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 12:43 PM
get a winch 
. 
what till its 95 degrees and you raced till midnite then start cranking by hand .I have a electric winch with a 30' cord for 7 years they make the remote controll you don't have a cable going to get that now.IMO you say you got a good deal so spend some more on the next thing to make your racing fun and 
easier.
also you can wire through 12v truck harness to winch .
don
. what till its 95 degrees and you raced till midnite then start cranking by hand .I have a electric winch with a 30' cord for 7 years they make the remote controll you don't have a cable going to get that now.IMO you say you got a good deal so spend some more on the next thing to make your racing fun and easier.also you can wire through 12v truck harness to winch .
don
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 01:10 PM
ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch. 
Posted By: 10 o to go
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 02:03 PM
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Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how.
did you get the car in thier with that winch and chain strap setup ? looks like you would have to reset several times and remove those chains and straps because it wont get up inside trailer enough .I have a 24 ft your winch is just at the fender i assume you cant get in to set park and would block wheels several times to set those chains are going to scratch the new floor.
We all gave our opinions since you posted it that what these sites do .
PROBLEM SOLVERS
Posted By: Diego_Ted
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 02:09 PM
Quote:
ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch.
You are a crazy man!! Have fun LOL
Diego
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 02:11 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how.
did you get the car in thier with that winch and chain strap setup ? looks like you would have to reset several times and remove those chains and straps because it wont get up inside trailer enough .I have a 24 ft your winch is just at the fender i assume you cant get in to set park and would block wheels several times to set those chains are going to scratch the new floor.
We all gave our opinions since you posted it that what these sites do .
OH YA i had to reset the cable,wheel chuck several times but will get a longer cable.just keeping it simple.i do appreciat the help.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:16 PM
Quote:Quote:
ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch.
You are a crazy man!! Have fun LOL
Diego
thanks.i think.
crazy?maybe.untel you have walked in my shoes you may not understand.to each there own way.
determined yes.to do it the way i want.
Posted By: formula S
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:24 PM
Quote:You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Take the good advice and get a winch, Diego got his from harbor frieght, I think it is an 8000# for around 300.00 its working great no problems.Quote:Quote:Quote:
Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
that is what i did today.i have all stock windows,cranks.i was thinking of a guide but unsure of how.
did you get the car in thier with that winch and chain strap setup ? looks like you would have to reset several times and remove those chains and straps because it wont get up inside trailer enough .I have a 24 ft your winch is just at the fender i assume you cant get in to set park and would block wheels several times to set those chains are going to scratch the new floor.
We all gave our opinions since you posted it that what these sites do .
OH YA i had to reset the cable,wheel chuck several times but will get a longer cable.just keeping it simple.i do appreciat the help.
Posted By: ProSport
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:38 PM
Mike I have a Superwinch 4500 just sitting here, you're welcome to use it til I get my trailer, which could possibly take a couple months as I have to sell my 91 Firebird and then special order the trailer. Let me know, only takes 2 bolts to bolt it down.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:38 PM
i am not looking for some1 to change my mine.thank you for your time anyways.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 03:43 PM
Quote:
Mike I have a Superwinch 4500 just sitting here, you're welcome to use it til I get my trailer, which could possibly take a couple months as I have to sell my 91 Firebird and then special order the trailer. Let me know, only takes 2 bolts to bolt it down.
thanks for the offer Bob but i will only get out maybe 2/3 times this yr.nobox and the mopar finals at norwalk and a points meet or T&T there.
your offer is ver kind!
Posted By: Sport440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 04:22 PM
Quote:Quote:
I picked up a 2000 lb winch from Tractor Supply for $100. Battery, $80. Works great!
tractor suply huh.
You wont need a 4000# winch to pull your car onto the trailor. As you found out it took some minimal force to pull your car up that very gradual incline of your encloseds ramp. It probably took less then 500# of force.
Your boat hand crank will work fine. It will just take more effort.
You by far Dont have to buy a $500 dollar winch setup.
I bought a HF 2000# winch on sale for $39 bucs that worked great for winching my #3000 ride up Steep ramps. It even pulled a couple of #4500 plus rides up onto my trailor too with a little Human assist.
The same winches sell for $49 now. After years of great easy use I gave it to a friend. I up graded to a #3500 $89 winch. Its alot stronger but it Sucks. If you dont keep tension on the cable during unwind, the cable unspools itself and Jams.
I wish I had my $39 winch back
Your type Hand crank sells for $20 bucs at HF. The one you have is free. Congrats on the new enclosed it looks nice. I love the diamond plate. mike
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 05:05 PM
Thanks Mike! i love the diamond plate also.i got it in just in time to move my daughter and 2 grand kids from florida to ohio in it last month.by the way i got the boat winch for free.some1 threw it out new in the box.single gear 1200lb but it will do the job.with it also i can put 50ft of cable on and just keep cranking instead of rowing with the comealong.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 05:23 PM
Why not just drive it in and climb out the window? That's what I do.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 05:28 PM
ya and you are built like a ferret.
Posted By: WILD BILL
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 05:41 PM
Lay off the Jungle Juice then
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 05:52 PM
Quote:
Lay off the Jungle Juice then
is that your secret?
i am doing what i can not to gain#'s and have lost 8 in the last few months.i will keep working at it. good luck this week racing.
Posted By: RussW
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 06:01 PM
Man I must be doing something wrong, I drive mine all the way in and get out the door , I'm only 6'2" 350+. 04 Pace Shadow 28 ft. I do remove the swing out bar first though.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 06:34 PM
Quote:
Man I must be doing something wrong, I drive mine all the way in and get out the door , I'm only 6'2" 350+. 04 Pace Shadow 28 ft. I do remove the swing out bar first though.
i have not tried getting in/out yet.with the angle of the door and the door bar[not moveable]i am sure it will be a sight.i am 6'2" 230#.i will give it a try this week.
Posted By: Crizila
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 07:07 PM
Don't forget to set the tongue weight. Should be between 10 and 15% of the gross trailer weight. You will be a happier driver with it closer to 15%.
Posted By: Blucuda413
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 07:22 PM
Stationary lexan windows. I drive mine in close to the left side. I then crawl over to the right door and stick my left foot out over the bar. I can then squeeze out the right door. Not difficult at all and sure beats the contortionists positions I can't get into anymore trying to go out the left side.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 07:56 PM
Quote:i am not sure how to get it close but i measured from my old trailer posession over the wheels,distances.the old 1 was only 20ft including the tongue. so i have 8 more ft pluss the tongue in front.i use load springs on the hitch to help tongue weight.
Don't forget to set the tongue weight. Should be between 10 and 15% of the gross trailer weight. You will be a happier driver with it closer to 15%.
Posted By: ProSport
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 10:18 PM
Quote:
thanks for the offer Bob but i will only get out maybe 2/3 times this yr.nobox and the mopar finals at norwalk and a points meet or T&T there.
your offer is ver kind!
No problem, let me know if you change your mind.
Posted By: dusturbd340W5
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 10:40 PM
Quote:
Why not just drive it in and climb out the window? That's what I do.
I leave the window down drive in open door a little and climb out no problem.The only reason I have a small winch is if its broke and wont run or drive.
Posted By: blown572dart
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 10:43 PM
Quote:
ok i will have to be more blunt.i am not getting a electric winch.
^^^^^^^^>>>>>>>
Posted By: 10secGTX
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 11:08 PM
what are you towing with?
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 11:14 PM
Quote:
what are you towing with?
you had to ask.
my dakota extended cab 4.7L
i am gunna give it a try.car&trailer 8,000lbs.
Posted By: Sport440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 11:53 PM
Quote:Quote:
what are you towing with?
you had to ask.
my dakota extended cab 4.7L
WRONG!!
I can say one thing, Your Honest. You can tow it but I wouldnt go fast or far. But , You already know that Im sure.Whats the truck itself rated for by its owners manuel. mike
Posted By: VernMotor
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 11:57 PM
Quote:
Man I must be doing something wrong, I drive mine all the way in and get out the door , I'm only 6'2" 350+. 04 Pace Shadow 28 ft. I do remove the swing out bar first though.
Thats what I do and I have a elec-winch ???
Posted By: blown572dart
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/05/09 11:57 PM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
what are you towing with?
you had to ask.
my dakota extended cab 4.7L
WRONG!!
Whats the truck itself rated for by its owners manuel. mike
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 12:00 AM
Quote:Quote:Quote:
what are you towing with?
you had to ask.
my dakota extended cab 4.7L
WRONG!!
Whats the truck itself rated for by its owners manuel. mike
i would have to look but it is around 7,000lbs+.you are right i wont go fast or far and the ffreeway is flat.good electric brakes.
edit;With 3.55 Axle Ratio You Can Tow 5800 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating(GVWR)=6010
Payload=1448
Curb Weight=4562
Curb WeightFront / Rear=2728/1834
GAWRFront / Rear=3600/3600
Gross Combination Weight Rating(GCWR)=10500
With 3.92 Axle Ratio You Can Tow 7000 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating(GVWR)=6010
Payload=1448
Curb Weight=4562
Curb WeightFront / Rear=2728/1834
GAWRFront / Rear=3600/3600
Gross Combination Weight Rating(GCWR)=11700
Posted By: ProSport
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 12:51 AM
Oh no Mike, Plan on burning up some transmissions and not much stability. Just being honest. With my 24' Haulmark and 3000# DartSport my 4.7 litre 'Ram' labored horribly all the way to and from the track and burned up the tranny. Switched to a Hemi Ram and all was good but too expensive for me.
Plan on burning up some transmissions and not much stability. Just being honest. With my 24' Haulmark and 3000# DartSport my 4.7 litre 'Ram' labored horribly all the way to and from the track and burned up the tranny. Switched to a Hemi Ram and all was good but too expensive for me.
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 12:57 AM
thanks Bob.i will have to see about a new truck next yr.how much is a trans? i will have to ask the guy who does my 727 what he would charge.i gave the trans a test pulling about 2,000lbs of ferniture from florida& through verginia mountains.
i will have to ask the guy who does my 727 what he would charge.i gave the trans a test pulling about 2,000lbs of ferniture from florida& through verginia mountains.
Posted By: dart4forte
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 04:08 AM
Quote:
Dont get in the car...line it up and then winch it in the trailer (CENTERED) so you dont have damage issue...kepp the driverside window down in case you need to adjust the wheels or if you have lexan and cant roll them down, then kick the tire or put a guide down on the floor so the tire will follow without a driver in it... Good luck..
Me likes your 64!!
Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 06:32 AM
Mike..
Drive it in and have someone help you center it.
Then use a tennis ball on a string and hang it from the ceiling so that it touches the windshield where you have a mark.
Leave the tennis ball permanently so you will always put it the same place..
Good Luck.
Chris..
Drive it in and have someone help you center it.
Then use a tennis ball on a string and hang it from the ceiling so that it touches the windshield where you have a mark.
Leave the tennis ball permanently so you will always put it the same place..
Good Luck.
Chris..
Posted By: blownzoom440
Re: test fit car,trailer today. - 07/06/09 09:05 AM
Thanks Chris!i still have to start the car for the 1st time this yr.i can get on that now that things are setteling down for me.as life goes though other things seem to happing jast as you relax.
thanks all for your input.
thanks all for your input.