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BG400 Pump #362119
06/29/09 11:31 PM
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Just curious if anyone else has experienced problems out of them or the 280? We are thinking of switching to either the aeromotive or the magnafuel not sure. Any pros and cons on either one of these? PS not the only ones upset with the bg's, was at the national event at norwalk and actually stepped right in and asked a pro stock chief mechanic what he thought of bg fuel pump and his words were not pleasant.......... so wasnt just us also was told by a worker for summit that is why they quit selling bg too many problems anyways just want to know would you recommend Aeromotive or magnafuel??

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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: moparatheart] #362120
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Magnafuel if those are my only choices. Why not look at Product Engineering as well, good pumps good people and they were the fore runners of the Magnafuels.


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Al_Alguire] #362121
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Thank you Al_Alguire. Also, for those that are not familar with our set up and it would help them base their opinion it is as follows:

9.20" R3 block, 50 MM cam tunnel
3.64" stroke King billet crank(48 lbs)
GRP 1100 series 6.25 alum rods
CP domes, lateral gas ports, .043/043/3MM rings 437 gram
1564 Bobweight
Custom Charlies oil pan, Stock Car Products pump
16.0:1 compression
Custom Comp roller, 278/300 @ .050" 112 LSA, installed at 111
.790/.735" lift, 1.7/1.55 Jesels
3/8 Comp pushrods
Crower SD .180 offset .842 lifters
Heads are old Ritter/Weber Arrington heads, 2.15"/1.625" Del Wests, 45* seats, 36 CC chamber, 255 CC runner, 2.78" Min CSA. Flow 354/255 @ .700
Hogans Sheetmetal intake, 2 1050 Dominators
Weber belt drive, MSD trigger, ATI steel hub 2 ring damper.

Was 800+ HP when Ryan Johnson Dynoed it.

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: moparatheart] #362122
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I actually have a BG fuel pump still. I have not had any issues with it but if I ever did I woudl replace it with a PE.


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Al_Alguire] #362123
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Me too. BG400. Bought it in 1995. Only issue was some machining flash jammed the pump by pass. Probably will leak on the current jack stand position, now that I have opened up my big yap.

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Al_Alguire] #362124
06/30/09 07:35 AM
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Quote:

I actually have a BG fuel pump still. I have not had any issues with it but if I ever did I woudl replace it with a PE.




BG400-2 Titanium here....no leaks....no problems....the original BG400 sat for four years and didn't leak when I installed the new bullet but it was corroded beyond repair internally due to the previous owner not draining the alky

Rickster

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Al_Alguire] #362125
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Product Engineering makes excellent stuff. Mine is quiet and was the only pump that can be mounted above the fuel tank and not have a warranty disclaimer in the instructions if you do so. Great customer service too.


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: jbc426] #362126
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The magnafuel pump is the same pump as the product engeneering pump both made by PE.

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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: boatracer572] #362127
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Tony,I was trying to lead them there but just did not say it


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Al_Alguire] #362128
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I had 3 or 4 BG280s poop the bed before I went to Magnafuel, never a problem since... have them in both my cars... BGs customer service was horrible too!!!

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: BB70DUSTER] #362129
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Quote:

I had 3 or 4 BG280s poop the bed before I went to Magnafuel, never a problem since... have them in both my cars... BGs customer service was horrible too!!!




Funny I have read about all the horror stories everyone claims with BG....but I have had nothing but great service from BG & their tech/service people...

Rickster

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: rickstershemi] #362130
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A buddy just put a brand new aeromotive pump on his car and it was seized up right out of the box..luckily he found another brand to use as a spare.

The one that was bad out of the box was a 2000 from Aeromotive


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: rickstershemi] #362131
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I had 3 or 4 BG280s poop the bed before I went to Magnafuel, never a problem since... have them in both my cars... BGs customer service was horrible too!!!




Funny I have read about all the horror stories everyone claims with BG....but I have had nothing but great service from BG & their tech/service people...

Rickster



2 of the 4 times I felt like the guy thought I was dumb... kept trying to make it my fuel systems fault, even though it was up too their standards... the other times it just took them forever, and the repairs cost be within $20 of what a new pump would have cost...

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: BB70DUSTER] #362132
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I had 3 or 4 BG280s poop the bed before I went to Magnafuel, never a problem since... have them in both my cars... BGs customer service was horrible too!!!




Funny I have read about all the horror stories everyone claims with BG....but I have had nothing but great service from BG & their tech/service people...

Rickster



2 of the 4 times I felt like the guy thought I was dumb... kept trying to make it my fuel systems fault, even though it was up too their standards... the other times it just took them forever, and the repairs cost be within $20 of what a new pump would have cost...




Just expressing my past experience...maybe I've just been lucky.....

Rickster

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: rickstershemi] #362133
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I had 3 or 4 BG280s poop the bed before I went to Magnafuel, never a problem since... have them in both my cars... BGs customer service was horrible too!!!




Funny I have read about all the horror stories everyone claims with BG....but I have had nothing but great service from BG & their tech/service people...

Rickster


i had a BG go bad,it was puting metal shavings in my carb they were so fine they went right through the filter.i bought the pump new but it took me 6 months to get mt car done,but they did RELUCTANLY replace it,SAVE RECEITS,they wouldnt have done it without one.ive got 2 400,s and their still tikin.

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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: bonefish] #362134
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Somewhere, buried within the hundreds of links I've saved, is a place that sells the infamous BG housing seal and oring. If I have some time, I'll post the link. Maybe someone who still visits the hillbilly chevy board (DRR) will remember.

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: Leigh] #362135
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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: VanishPt] #362136
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A few years back I sold all my BG stuff because I was told of all the problems awaiting me. I bought 2 new Magnafuel prostar 500 pumps and within 2 hours of intermittant run time one new one got noisey and had to be repaired. Since then I have repaired BG and magnafuel pumps. The BG and magnafuel take the same shaft seal and one bearing is also the same. Here are the numbers. These are available at most any bearing/seal vendor.

1st BG
Pump number 1
NOK CU0034DO SEAL
HAD R1-1438S BEARINGS
WE WERE SOLD BRGS. CHINA 9R6 CW


2nd BG
Pump Number 2
NOK CU0034DO SEAL
NTZ OR NT2 608LU BEARINGS TOP AND BOTTOM

3rd BG
Pump number 3
NOK CU0034DO SEAL
HAD R1-1438S BEARINGS

Magnafuel
NOK CU0034DO SEAL
JAPAN 629RS 1JK BOTTOM BRG.
THAILAND 608S NMB TOP BRG.

Re: BG400 Pump [Re: NITROUSN] #362137
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My 280 started resonating and would spit fuel instead of flow, but in a narrow window - - right where my car needed going down the track. BG repaired it, then replaced it then gave up and then sent me a 400. All at no charge. Cost me a lot of money as I needed to replace all of the lines - - all braided.

One thing I have to say is that BG service was great.......


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Re: BG400 Pump [Re: markz528] #362138
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Interesting comments. My BG 400 is 20 years old. I pull the carb lines to check the volume every now and then and 1 gal in 14 secs...never heard of a BG400 failure...so it will fail on the first pass next time and then buy.

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