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440source mini-starter terminal clearance #351207
06/18/09 08:35 PM
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Im finally getting back to trying to install this new mini-starter on my 440. I notice that the battery positive stud (w/nut) on the starter is less than a 1/4 of an inch away from the block - probably would be around 1/8 of an inch with the cable installed. Oh and this is with the terminal extension removed - that would in no way fit.

Now in my experience, a main battery positive cable is something I want to keep away from a large grounded chunk of cast iron. Are these mini-starters really made this way? If so, can someone give me any ideas on how to try to insulate this connection?

thanks

Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: jensenguy] #351208
06/18/09 09:25 PM
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I cut a 3/8 inch long piece of rubber fuel line. After the + cable and nut are installed and tight, I slip the piece of hose over the top of the starter stud and wedge it against the block.

Simple, cheap, and the rubber hose insulates the stud. 4 years and no problems.

I've heard of guys who run without any insulation at all with no problems either, but this simple fix makes me feel better.


1969 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 383 A4
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 440 FC7 (sold)
Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: jensenguy] #351209
06/18/09 09:31 PM
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I just stuck a mini starter on my Interceptor, I tossed the connection extension and I seem to have acceptable clearance, but I know some are better than others...


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Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: wingman] #351210
06/18/09 09:34 PM
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Quote:

I cut a 3/8 inch long piece of rubber fuel line. After the + cable and nut are installed and tight, I slip the piece of hose over the top of the starter stud and wedge it against the block.

Simple, cheap, and the rubber hose insulates the stud. 4 years and no problems.

I've heard of guys who run without any insulation at all with no problems either, but this simple fix makes me feel better.




That's the same way I did it.

Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: Lefty] #351211
06/18/09 10:32 PM
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thanks guys, I'll try to find something like that. I am considering doing some soldering and grinding and making a permanently installed positive cable with more clearance, it may work out better for this application. Depends on how bored i get at work.
thanks again!

Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #351212
06/19/09 10:21 PM
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Quote:

I just stuck a mini starter on my Interceptor, I tossed the connection extension and I seem to have acceptable clearance, but I know some are better than others...





I tossed the extention too, and did some grinding on the remaining tab to maximize the clearance to the block.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: jbc426] #351213
06/20/09 04:23 PM
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Quote:

I just stuck a mini starter on my Interceptor, I tossed the connection extension and I seem to have acceptable clearance, but I know some are better than others...





I tossed the extention too, and did some grinding on the remaining tab to maximize the clearance to the block.






tossing the exension is a necessity on a BB with the mini starter

Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: jensenguy] #351214
06/20/09 05:26 PM
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Get the mini starter from Robb Mc Performance. PN2005. Unreal clearance.


Grandma always said I had "hands of gold"!
Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: CHRGR69] #351215
06/20/09 06:28 PM
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Get the mini starter from Robb Mc Performance. PN2005. Unreal clearance.




The McRobb Starter is a very nice piece but it is three times the money... To keep $200.00 in my pocket I'll deal with a minor inconvience...

Re: 440source mini-starter terminal clearance [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #351216
06/20/09 07:51 PM
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Quote:

Get the mini starter from Robb Mc Performance. PN2005. Unreal clearance.




The McRobb Starter is a very nice piece but it is three times the money... To keep $200.00 in my pocket I'll deal with a minor inconvience...




After the second time I replace my stock mini starter I decided I only want to pull this thing out one time.

I got a McRobb starter.


Parts are available for them too on the website.

And he supports Moparts by using ad space on this forum.


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post5111743











Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.






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