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Very slow spinning engine New build #345876 06/13/09 04:47 PM 06/13/09 04:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,247 Chi-Town PlumCrazyCharger OP pro stock
PlumCrazyCharger OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,247 Chi-Town	Let me throw something out there... Just finished a street 440 for my 69 Charger just freshened everything and lowered the compression. The engine turns over freely by hand and when I go to start it the starter seems to labor and spins the engine over extreemly slowly. Car will not start. It kinda sounds like reen o reen o reen o reen Just threw in a brand new battery (1st thought) it has spark slowly turns over with ignition off and coil/ distributor disconnected, almost as quickely as you could spin it by hand! spins a little quicker with the spark plugs out, but not anywhere close to what it should be Plugs do have a bit of fuel on them (did not flood it just enough to start) The starter was a little harder to get in than normal, so could the starter by misaligned? Before I take the starter out I figured I would ask you guys. It's a pain in the ass to get it out. On Sunday I might loosen the starter and reinstall. Help!

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #345877 06/13/09 04:54 PM 06/13/09 04:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 350 Grande Prairie, Alberta, Can. CW25 enthusiast
CW25 enthusiast Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 350 Grande Prairie, Alberta, Can.	One thing to look is ground wire size. Do you have a good engine ground for that starter? If not see if you can measure the starter on how much it draws while cranking. A secondary way to do this is to measure battery voltage while cranking. 11.67@118 1.88 60' with only 7-8 lbs of boost. Turbocharged, megasquirted, 407 BB, 440 source heads, roller cam, 9:1 comp. http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/beansgracie

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #345878 06/13/09 04:57 PM 06/13/09 04:57 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA P Polarapete top fuel
Polarapete top fuel P Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA	I would start with the simple things first. (1) do you have a fully charged battery and (2) do you have good ground from the engine thru the body and back to the battery? I used to do road service calls and threw a new battery and rebuilt starter at no-start Isuzu diesel pickup. On the 3rd visit,I found a loose ground at the engine block after I fixed that, I never heard from them again 1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #345879 06/13/09 05:09 PM 06/13/09 05:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc E emarine01 master
emarine01 master E Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695 nc	Could be a bad ground, check your connections,test voltage drop at the starter and batt while cranking if its more than .5 volts you have a connection or cable problem, load test batt, If all else fails pull the starter and have it tested , check flywheel teeth for signs of miss alignment

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: emarine01] #345880 06/13/09 05:15 PM 06/13/09 05:15 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,431 Florida STAYcation BeEtLeJuIcE ! The village idiot's idiot
BeEtLeJuIcE ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,431 Florida STAYcation	TRY using some starting fluid. And aslo check that starter alignment.

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #345881 06/13/09 05:27 PM 06/13/09 05:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 621 Iowa C coronetville mopar
coronetville mopar C Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 621 Iowa	check timing, did you put in new main bearings? did you check bearing clearance?

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #345882 06/13/09 05:36 PM 06/13/09 05:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Quote: Let me throw something out there... Just finished a street 440 for my 69 Charger just freshened everything and lowered the compression. The engine turns over freely by hand and when I go to start it the starter seems to labor and spins the engine over extreemly slowly. Car will not start. It kinda sounds like reen o reen o reen o reen Just threw in a brand new battery (1st thought) it has spark slowly turns over with ignition off and coil/ distributor disconnected, almost as quickely as you could spin it by hand! spins a little quicker with the spark plugs out, but not anywhere close to what it should be Plugs do have a bit of fuel on them (did not flood it just enough to start) The starter was a little harder to get in than normal, so could the starter by misaligned ? Before I take the starter out I figured I would ask you guys. It's a pain in the ass to get it out. On Sunday I might loosen the starter and reinstall. Help! Happened to me same deal starter drive was jammed against the flywheel and dragged bad.... Rickster

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: rickstershemi] #345883 06/13/09 09:54 PM 06/13/09 09:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,247 Chi-Town PlumCrazyCharger OP pro stock
PlumCrazyCharger OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,247 Chi-Town	Could be a ground? I do have it grounded, but never hurts to recheck. After that I'll pull the starter and check for mis-alignment.

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: PlumCrazyCharger] #345884 06/13/09 11:45 PM 06/13/09 11:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal C cmcgee123 enthusiast
cmcgee123 enthusiast C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 219 so cal	my 440 did that after i rebuilt the engine. i put in a powermaster starter that cured my problem.

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: cmcgee123] #345885 06/13/09 11:55 PM 06/13/09 11:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York H Harley super stock
Harley super stock H Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York	I had the same problem and it turned out being a bad ground. I got the car started and noticed that by having the bad ground it melted the shifter cable.

Re: Very slow spinning engine New build [Re: rickstershemi] #345886 06/14/09 07:29 PM 06/14/09 07:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois CRE2004 super gas
CRE2004 super gas Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,503 Illinois	Quote: Quote: Let me throw something out there... Just finished a street 440 for my 69 Charger just freshened everything and lowered the compression. The engine turns over freely by hand and when I go to start it the starter seems to labor and spins the engine over extreemly slowly. Car will not start. It kinda sounds like reen o reen o reen o reen Just threw in a brand new battery (1st thought) it has spark slowly turns over with ignition off and coil/ distributor disconnected, almost as quickely as you could spin it by hand! spins a little quicker with the spark plugs out, but not anywhere close to what it should be Plugs do have a bit of fuel on them (did not flood it just enough to start) The starter was a little harder to get in than normal, so could the starter by misaligned ? Before I take the starter out I figured I would ask you guys. It's a pain in the ass to get it out. On Sunday I might loosen the starter and reinstall. Help! Happened to me same deal starter drive was jammed against the flywheel and dragged bad.... Rickster This is probably the culprit

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