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Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem #332139
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For some reason, my CRT dipstick tube doesn't want to seal with this latest engine swap. I never really cared for the design of this, it just seems like the rubber seal was WAY to big for the hole and the tube just kinda smooshed it in there, but somehow it sealed....until now, when I put the engine in tonight. I got it bolted to the bellhousing and it's just not doing it. Is there any other tube out there that'll work with this, or any ideas?

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: 1BadLiLCharger] #332140
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i had to bolt my dipstick to the mid plate, wouldnt fit behind the bolt and the sheild, just bent the tab around a bit and bolted thruogh the mid plate.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: Dustedu] #332141
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Having never seen the CRT part I am gonna assume the seal he is using is the GM grommet. If so they need to be replaced occasionally. If it is a long "grommet" then just go to the parts store and pivk up a Chevy dipstick tube seal. Pretty common part.

This is the GM part

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Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: Al_Alguire] #332142
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Al, it DOES look like that...almost seems TOO big for the hole, seems like it should be a bit smaller, because without bolting it to the block it isn't even NEAR stable, at least the stock piece is in there pretty tight before you bolt it to the housing.

This GM grommet never seems tight.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: 1BadLiLCharger] #332143
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I run the CRT dipstick tube for the CSR shield...no problems here. Do you have it bolted to a bellhousing bolt hole?

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: Quicksilver440] #332144
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Yes I do.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: Dustedu] #332145
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i had to bolt my dipstick to the mid plate, wouldnt fit behind the bolt and the sheild, just bent the tab around a bit and bolted thruogh the mid plate.




Somehow missed this post...anyways, don't have a mid plate.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: 1BadLiLCharger] #332146
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use the Lokar flexible dipstick. you can mount the handle away from the heat of headers & it has 2 "O" rings to guarantee a seal.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: 1BadLiLCharger] #332147
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Pat, i run one with no problems.

common problem ive seen on cars ive wrenched on is they do not put the rubber seal in the trans hole first then lube the dip stick and slide it in, they have tryed to install the dip stick with the seal on the tube and it doesnt want to seat in all the way into the trans hole and leak.

and a little to make it fit with a sheild
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Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: BobsProFab] #332148
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There's a thought, Bob.

And if that don't work, I may look into the Lokar setup.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: BobsProFab] #332149
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Pat, i run one with no problems.

common problem ive seen on cars ive wrenched on is they do not put the rubber seal in the trans hole first then lube the dip stick and slide it in, they have tryed to install the dip stick with the seal on the tube and it doesnt want to seat in all the way into the trans hole and leak.

and a little to make it fit with a sheild
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I've had the CRT dipstick that was made for the CSR shield on my dartSport and it fit perfect. I tried the LOKAR and it was the absolute biggest piece of crap I ever bought.

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: ProSport] #332150
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what problem did you have with the LOKAR set up sport? mine fits perfect, has never leaked even tho i've had it off a few times, & the fact that you can mount the handle away from headers makes checking the level very comfortable. my original tube never leaked but with the handle being so close to the exhaust made checking levels a glove only deal, them handles get hot!

Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: rebel] #332151
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My Lokar trans tube fitting was very loose and leaked. I also found even though it is a flexible design you still must mount it basically straight up or the fluid in the tube messes up the reading on the stick as it goes in and out, forget it if you want to check it after you just added fluid.


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I agree Lokar tubes are junk and try putting fluid in them what a joke.As far as the boots installed correctly they hardly ever leak.


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Re: Those using CSR trans shield, dipstick tube problem [Re: dusturbd340W5] #332153
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I hated my Lokar dipstick too Pat. Putting fluid in was difficult, and in my car the dipstick was located just below that ridge that runs across the firewall. Busted my knuckles every time I pulled the stick.

I would get a new grommet and try Bob's suggestion.


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No problems with my Lokar dipstick. CHIP


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No problems here with my stock dip stick

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Here's me trying to put my dipstick in with the CSR shield in place finally in ,,,oh yeah I forgot the


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Here's me trying to put my dipstick in with the CSR shield in place finally in ,,,oh yeah I forgot the




What? i dont get it? Mine slides right in in the stock position.is your engine set back?

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Here's me trying to put my dipstick in with the CSR shield in place finally in ,,,oh yeah I forgot the




is your engine set back?


stock location, it would hit the shield hard before it would come even close to bolting to the bell housing, a little tweeking and I got it to work, I don't think they clearance the shield enough or a big enough cut out for a tube at time's.


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Here's me trying to put my dipstick in with the CSR shield in place finally in ,,,oh yeah I forgot the




is your engine set back?


stock location, it would hit the shield hard before it would come even close to bolting to the bell housing, a little tweeking and I got it to work, I don't think they clearance the shield enough or a big enough cut out for a tube at time's.




I must of got the one good shield they cut right,as all I had to do was to bend the tab at the end of the tube and attach it where its suppose to be.Hope mine recerts so I dont have get one that doesnt fit.That bites

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I hated my Lokar dipstick too Pat. Putting fluid in was difficult, and in my car the dipstick was located just below that ridge that runs across the firewall. Busted my knuckles every time I pulled the stick.





i find it strange you had a problem getting fluid into a Lokar dipstick tube. are you using the adaptor that comes with the tube? i fitted my adaptor onto a small funnel & it stays in place by itself & since the adaptor is clear you can be sure all the fluid is gone before removing so you don't send white smoke signals to the indians. & since the tube is flexible i have it away from the headers & nowhere near the the pinchweld on the firewall so it's easy access. true you cannot read the dipstick just after filling up but hey, wait a minute & she's all good. was talking to a racer buddy last nite about this post & he has fitted a flexitube too & swears it's the best invention out for 727's & header clearence. i kinda thinking you're doing something wrong. And no i don't work for Lokar.

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Heck I didn't even get to the point of filling the trans with my Lokar, I couldn't even get it to fit into the tranny case, the aluminum hex wouldn't clear the case and there was no bracket on the Lokar to lock it in like the CRT tube has, that way you know it's not going anywhere. Every car is different and it looks like a few guys here like the Lokar, I just had zero luck with it like everything else I buy for these cars.

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use the Lokar flexible dipstick. you can mount the handle away from the heat of headers & it has 2 "O" rings to guarantee a seal.




That is what I run with my CSR shield.


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Pat, i run one with no problems.

common problem ive seen on cars ive wrenched on is they do not put the rubber seal in the trans hole first then lube the dip stick and slide it in, they have tryed to install the dip stick with the seal on the tube and it doesnt want to seat in all the way into the trans hole and leak.




That might've done the trick, Bob. Somehow the seal had moved up the tube a bit and was stuck on the flange, probably from the first time a few years back that I installed it....I remember fighting with it trying to get it in (with the seal on the tube) and I remember fighting with it to get it far enough into the trans to get it to bolt to the block. Probably pushed the seal up the tube when I was doing that and never noticed.

So I got the seal off the tube and put it in the trans first and tube just slipped in like nothing. Bolted it to the block and it looks ok so far. We're gonna be starting this mill up tomorrow with the new cam and we'll see if it leaks or not.. Thanks!

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We're gonna be starting this mill up tomorrow with the new cam and we'll see if it leaks or not.. Thanks!




Good luck Pat

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