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B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential #327441 05/24/09 08:01 PM 05/24/09 08:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac OP master
moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	What does a fully set fo B1 originals flow... how much HP can I get out of them on pump gas 11.5 to compression.... mid 260's solid roller Do they require special rockers / special headers and intake? is 500 cubes enough for the heads... thx thinking about next years setup already and want to plan ahead.. Mopar Performance

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: moparniac] #327442 05/24/09 08:36 PM 05/24/09 08:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia	I'm not an expert, but have done some research for a friends engine. They use their own specific rocker They require a specific piston as the Valve position is different to standard BB Mopar. B1 originals will over 400cfm when ported properly Specific Header flanges and Intake has to be used. For RB block Intake Spacers are required AL... Alan Jones

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: LA360] #327443 05/24/09 08:42 PM 05/24/09 08:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal Brian Hafliger master
Brian Hafliger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal	Here's a link to a post I did last year. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1 Brian IMM Engine & Dyno Brian Hafliger

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Brian Hafliger] #327444 05/24/09 09:33 PM 05/24/09 09:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs Bob_Coomer master
Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	Diff pistons,diff rockers,diff headers, diff intake, diff pushrods. You would be better off building a new motor from the get go for B1 Stuff.. Dont you want to try to maximize your current combo first? The secret to going fast isnt just throwing new parts at it, you probably know this by now.. [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: moparniac] #327445 05/24/09 10:19 PM 05/24/09 10:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	If you have a well built shortblock, you can get very close to B1 performance with a set of fully ported 440-1 heads, and need only change the valve notchs (maybe need them larger) rather than change pistons. Headers would also be more likely to fit. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Brian Hafliger] #327446 05/24/09 10:26 PM 05/24/09 10:26 PM
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CH3NO2 super stock Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,074 Wichita Kansas	Quote: Here's a link to a post I did last year. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1 Brian IMM Engine & Dyno That is nice work Brian. Steve Engine by DeTar http://www.kansasbadman.com

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: moparniac] #327447 05/24/09 10:53 PM 05/24/09 10:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Quote: What does a fully set fo B1 originals flow... how much HP can I get out of them on pump gas 11.5 to compression.... mid 260's solid roller Do they require special rockers / special headers and intake? is 500 cubes enough for the heads... thx thinking about next years setup already and want to plan ahead.. My B1 originals ported by Koffels flow around 440 CFM on the intake side I know of one motor that is in a members car that has a set of ported B1 that made over one thousand HP on race gas I beleive that motor was a 525 C.I. or close to that It was a all out race motor intended for heads up racing in the PSCA series on the west coast. Lower compression and a smaller cam like your talking about should make close to 850 hp on pump gas with a single 1050 Dominator tuned properly All the components you ask about are B1 specific, you need the complete top end package and special exhaust flanges for custom made headers that Big Dad sells As well as the proper pistons with deep enough valve reliefs to clear your cam lift at TDC Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Cab_Burge] #327448 05/25/09 08:53 AM 05/25/09 08:53 AM
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B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	B1s are somewhat exotic..they take all the special parts that have been mentioned. The B1-PSO head is for die hard wedge racers. By far the best wedge head available, they flow over 470+ cfm but are costly $$$$.. The B1-MC is next best and only a little more $$ than the original B1.They will flow around 450 CFM.

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: B1Fish540] #327449 05/25/09 11:28 AM 05/25/09 11:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac OP master
moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	I will optimize this combo for this season and maybe sell the whole motor is the way I was thinking........ I cant decide whether to sell my roller or keep it since Ive done so much work to it and go light like a badd dart or demon.... or go all in on a awesome big inch street wedge thoughts..... Mopar Performance

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Brian Hafliger] #327450 05/25/09 11:37 AM 05/25/09 11:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 84 Inland Empire S Sci Fi 64 member
Sci Fi 64 member S Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 84 Inland Empire	These heads and all related parts are for sale in the parts section right now. Employment issues have forced me in another direction. They are still brand new and have never been used. Beautiful work on these heads Brian. Thanks.

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Sci Fi 64] #327451 05/25/09 12:02 PM 05/25/09 12:02 PM
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moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	so with the right made piston can you get them to have 11.5 to 1 compression at 74.5 cc..... Mopar Performance

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: moparniac] #327452 05/25/09 02:09 PM 05/25/09 02:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal Brian Hafliger master
Brian Hafliger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,486 SoCal	Quote: so with the right made piston can you get them to have 11.5 to 1 compression at 74.5 cc..... Ofcourse! Brian Hafliger

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: moparniac] #327453 05/26/09 06:30 PM 05/26/09 06:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: thoughts..... Yep...

Re: B1 Head Flow Numbers / Potential [Re: Brian Hafliger] #327454 05/26/09 09:51 PM 05/26/09 09:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 616 Dunedin, Fl DRDart mopar addict
DRDart mopar addict Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 616 Dunedin, Fl	Quote: Here's a link to a post I did last year. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0&fpart=1 Brian IMM Engine & Dyno Simply fabulous post right there Makes one start thinking & that usually costs me alot of money when that happens [image]http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv183/DrDart500/DSC00307.jpg 1966 Charger 1970 Dart 16-1,solid roller,500 ci Tunnel Ram 8" Ati conv,BTE glide, Fab 9 rear strange center sect. Twin Rons terminators on Alky.

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