Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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I have mine mounted to my front plate.
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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I have mine mounted to my front plate. Me too, right next to the pump
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Passenger's side of the motorplate. Vacuum pump is on the driver's side.
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Same as mine pulling from one valve cover. Anyone see any additional vacuum increase by putting a Tee fitting within the line to pull from both sides from both valve covers?
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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The catch can location that everyone is showing, what's the trick to keeping that filter from oiling up? This is my reasoning for asking this question. I thought about just moving it to the rear like catch cans for trans. I run this Moroso 22635 fitting. It helps from sucking oil.
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Every time I had an engine that is pulling oil (minus putting it in the lifter valley), the way to stop it was to seal the engine up. Without air or blowby, oil can't be pulled into the vacuum pump. I had engines with huge vacuum leak that pulled 3 or 4 oz per dyno pull, at that point we stop and find the source of the leak.
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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The catch can location that everyone is showing, what's the trick to keeping that filter from oiling up? This is my reasoning for asking this question. I thought about just moving it to the rear like catch cans for trans. I run this Moroso 22635 fitting. It helps from sucking oil. Those are the fitting that i run
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Every time I had an engine that is pulling oil (minus putting it in the lifter valley), the way to stop it was to seal the engine up. Without air or blowby, oil can't be pulled into the vacuum pump. I had engines with huge vacuum leak that pulled 3 or 4 oz per dyno pull, at that point we stop and find the source of the leak.
Joe Agreed, I've also seen vacuum regulators fitted to valve covers
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Every time I had an engine that is pulling oil (minus putting it in the lifter valley), the way to stop it was to seal the engine up. Without air or blowby, oil can't be pulled into the vacuum pump. I had engines with huge vacuum leak that pulled 3 or 4 oz per dyno pull, at that point we stop and find the source of the leak.
Joe Leaks cause too much air to move through the engine and that makes it pull a lot of oil.
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Every time I had an engine that is pulling oil (minus putting it in the lifter valley), the way to stop it was to seal the engine up. Without air or blowby, oil can't be pulled into the vacuum pump. I had engines with huge vacuum leak that pulled 3 or 4 oz per dyno pull, at that point we stop and find the source of the leak.
Joe Exactly....
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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I have two engines with a vac pump, neither of the valve covers has a baffle for the vac line. The amount of oil drawn through is negligible, I get more water in the catch can than oil and it isn't a lot. If I do start to get oil in the can I check for a leak, rocker cover gaskets, loose fittings etc. As has been stated, if the engine is sealed well and the vac relief valve (if used) is in the correct position you should draw very little oil.
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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Yeah, I've seen that sweatband thing too and I will get a witness film around that area where it is in the car. The vac pump does draw condensation from the motor but once warm it's gone maybe a couple of minutes or more on a colder day. The actual catch can has a baffle in it and a drain petcock, it's about 90% water when I drain it. I'm guessing it takes longer to warm an engine up on E85 ?
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: vacuum Catch can location.
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I drain my catch can after every pass out of habit almost never even get a drop or two. I also drain it whenever I think about it after hundreds of street miles just to double check. Almost never get anything out of it then either. I run a vacuum sensor through the Racepak also so I always know vacuum is still good.
I do the same with draining my rad overflow as well. I usually get a little more from this if hotter temps outside.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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