Can you make +900hp for a reasonable price?

After all I have been thru and learned, I think a 4.5 bore block raised cam block with maybe a 4.75 stroke and Indy 572-13 heads with the Jesel rockers and spray bars 12.4:1 compression and a milder ramp on the cam than full race setup....Thoughts?

My biggest drag and drive engine questions are on the lifters and rockers.

What are most of the N/A and nitrous people using? Bushed or bearing roller lifters, or are non-roller cams preferred?

Steel or aluminum rockers? It seems like once you go past stock style heads there aren't any steel options anymore, but what about for Trick Flows/Edelbrocks/Stealths?

Serious Drag And Drive competitors run bushed lifters, and rockers, and the best you can buy. Roller cams are the norm.

Kurt Johnson, who has won his class more than anyone in DnD events once told us, as soon as he gets home from the event, he pulls the engine, and sells everything out of it, except the block... He has guys waiting to get his good used parts. They are happy to get a deal, he's happy he used up the best life of the part.

A 4.75 stroke crank, is a complete waste of time. You need to decide which class you are going to run in first.

FWIW, T&D machine shows the option of having the rockers made out of steel

W8 turboed or Indy headed 400 turbo or even a pro charger.
Sorry, didn’t see the NA part

The first B1 motor I made for a customer made 920 HP at or around 7000 RPM, it was a World cast grey iron block bored to 4.495 with a 4.250 stroker crank with 7.100 long H beam rods with a set of B1 heads from Koffels with their cast aluminum single Dominator four barrel manifold and a custom ground Comp Cams 3 bolt roller cam. The customer furnished the carbs, they were custom made "Dam Best" Dominator carbs, he had two, a 1050 CFM and a larger 140?? CFM carb that didn't work worth a hoot
I would build a 572 C.I. (4.500x4.500) B1 headed stroker BB on E85 for that deal with dual Mark Sullens prep E85 Dominator carbs on a tunnel ram intake: up:
I'm in the middle of trying to complete an identical KB aluminum block B1 heads up no prep motor for some local 1/8 mile racing, I'm sure this motor will make 1000 + HP on E85, I'll add NOS as needed

An LS or Gen III built well for NA will run you near the top and is probably the best value. I know one mustang with an NA LS 454 ran mid 9s back in 2013 to win the big block NA class. Rey Meyers won Small Block NA in 2016 with his Gen III Hemi ran an average in the 9.7s or 9.8s on pump gas. Both those cars would podium today because the NA classes aren't growing. I know the 2 cars I mentioned both ran stock hydraulic roller valvetrains and stock rocker gear.

Jason Tabscott in his 427" Small Block Chevy went 8.52 today on sick week. That car is awesome because by looking at you know its fast enough to need a cage, but you would likely never guess it would run 8.52@159 unless you saw the chute. He shares a little about his combo, he says it has over 1 inch of lift, its 15:1 and it runs on pump gas for the drives. He Jets down 16 jet sizes to run pump gas. I think it holds together fairly well, I think he can do several events without changing much.

Then there is Curt Johnson who has supposedly retired after tons of wins in the NA classes with big and small block combos. There is another guy in the big block NA class that is in the 8s but I can't remember his name, he runs a big block chevy.

Eddie Miller ran some 8.50s in his duster almost 10 years ago now. Predator big block grandfathered into the pro street class due to floor modifications. He claims he did it on pump gas as well.

Last but not least is Doc Mac in his SEERED 68 Camaro that has a 600++ inch Goodwin Hemi and has runs pretty deep in the 7s NA in the Pro Street class. He is for sure the fastest NA and the only fast NA entry on big tires. Doc's car is a real pro street deal with a radio and wipers and stuff.

That is what I know to be true, I follow this stuff pretty closely and have talked to most of these guys on a drag week at one point.

I can tell you not to build a 68 Barracuda with 70s tech that is almost 400lbs over the class minimum. It got me 3rd place in Street Race Small Block NA in 2021 but likely won't do it again without some big changes lol.

Its an expensive style of event to run, but its awesome. Its 6 days of racing and race car people everywhere you go. Its the backroads and small towns of America in your race car. You can't wait for it to start and you will hate your car for weeks after the event but you will want to sign up for it the next year.

Attached is Jason Tabscott's Camaro and et slip from today.

Ray Barton can do 800's with a pump gas, single 4 bbl, flat tappet cam. A grandma motor compared to what you are asking for. If you want 900 I don't think he's going to have a problem making that.

I would have thought my big Hemi would be making that much by now.....Seems I missed somthing somewhere...

I would prob run a 5.0 bore space hemi, similar to the motor i just sold........ you know, the one in the 69 camaro that destroys everyone in the class and has been 7's

Clark, it’s Eddie Ensor that you are thinking of. Runs an extremely clean Fox body Mustang with a BBC. Jimmy Lopez aka JLo builds his engines.

Oh and Tabscott’s SB runs a Mopar W8 intake on it.

That W8 intake has had ALOT of work done to it. I got to see it before being installed after Sick Week last year. Sick piece. Jasons car has also dropped some weight since last year. Couple of years ago I was staying at the same hotel before RMRW 2.0 started in Tulsa. Had a pow wow in the parking lot that included Jason, Doc McEntire. Jeff McConnel and Mike Crow. Learned alot about NA builds. What Jason does on only 430 C.I. is amazing

That Small block is around 1000hp, to push the Camaro to the ET's it does. The car lost weight over the winter, but it's still no fly weight car, and Jason isn't a small guy. Him, and his wife Amanda are very nice people.

Clark...in 2018, when I met yall at Darlington before the hurricane, I was taken aback by Tabscott's Camaro. That car MOVED...I wasn't expecting it to run like it did. I think it ran 9.0s the pass I saw. After I left the track that day, I looked up the combo and class he was running to see what it was.

Dragula...If you'd sort out what you have, you'd be running where you want. There's no reason your car shouldn't be running low 9s. You have more motor and less weight than I do.

I wouldn't build a NA motor for that. You can run twice as fast with 1/2 the cam if you just put a Wonton war whistle on it

Some people want the challenge. Put that Wonton War Whistle on, and be in a sea of others doing the same thing. Car still must fit into a specific class for the event.

Dr. James Mcintyre is currently running Sick Week with an NA 709 Cu. In. Goodwin Hemi in a 68 Camaro. It's been 7.72 & 7.76 @ 174mph, so far this event. They said He's the fastest NA car ever in Drag & Drive events.

Or run 4s in the eighth and coast to mid 7s

Been doing it for years with Indy heads lmao

While that is impressive, now add everything the car needs to be a "Street" car at these events, AND drive it 1000+ miles. People think it's easy, but are humbled really quick when something simple can take you out of the event. This isn't a weekend bracket race, or heads up race, you can use you golf cart to push the car around the pits...