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1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer #3101548
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Is the 4 hole better or worse than the fully open hole? Or does it not make a difference. Putting this under my carb to raise the shaker bubble.

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101554
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For a street car...better. The open one will want more rpm to work effectively.

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101555
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Wilson Manifolds has a write up on the spacers. Not sure of the top, but a buddy that machines, builds and runs a lot of motors on his in house dyno says a 1 inch Wilson spacer almost always gains any V8 20+ hp and the 2 inch spacer gains even more.


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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101569
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Buy both and then test them on your car at the track wrench twocents


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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Cab_Burge] #3101573
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Buy both and then test them on your car at the track wrench twocents


I did this, and the open spacer has always worked best for me. Even on a dual plane intake....


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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Cab_Burge] #3101579
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Buy both and then test them on your car at the track wrench twocents

iagree Completely dependent on the combination.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3101590
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I don't think I'll be doing any track time w/ this Cuda. It ain't a show poodle, but too valuable to bust stuff (well, except for the 4.10 Dana). lol

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101592
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Whats the combo? Cam, heads, intake, carb, trans?


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3101594
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Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Whats the combo? Cam, heads, intake, carb, trans?


Bone stock 440-4bbl. U code Cuda, w/ a 4 speed transmission.

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101597
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If the intake has a the 4 hole flange, then I'd use a 4 hole spacer. If it's a dual oval hole flange...I'd be tempted to use an open spacer. twocents


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Dragula] #3101603
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In a dual plane, adding a spacer allows all cylinders to get some of the flow from the opposite passages, like a small plenum (larger version of cutting down the left-right separator).
Low speed vacuum may drop. but peak power goes up.
More of my comments here: http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/intake-tech-c.htm#dp


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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: polyspheric] #3101607
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there are some outstanding spacers made out of aluminum, usually the introduce nitrous and extra fuel. works very well and picks up a second or more off the ET slip up


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Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: polyspheric] #3101628
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Originally Posted by polyspheric
In a dual plane, adding a spacer allows all cylinders to get some of the flow from the opposite passages, like a small plenum (larger version of cutting down the left-right separator).
Low speed vacuum may drop. but peak power goes up.
More of my comments here: http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/intake-tech-c.htm#dp


Great comprehensive article, Poly! Thanks

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: an8sec70cuda] #3101730
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Use a dual spacer like the intake(2 oval holes) . I run an old wooden Edelbrock spacer on my 70 440 4bl. Not sure if they still make it though.

Re: 1" Phenolic / Bakelite Carburetor Spacer [Re: Kudakidd] #3101873
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I've done lots of testing and as stated it's totally dependent on the combo and the plastic ones are not the best in terms of heat during heavy street driving. The phenolic composites are nice and actually keep heat out of the carb(s) by up to 35* on my stuff and the wilson tapered are so far the best at least for me....

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Originally Posted by Kudakidd
Is the 4 hole better or worse than the fully open hole? Or does it not make a difference. Putting this under my carb to raise the shaker bubble.


Dumb ebody knob question , why does the shaker bubble need to be raised ?


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by Kudakidd
Is the 4 hole better or worse than the fully open hole? Or does it not make a difference. Putting this under my carb to raise the shaker bubble.


Dumb ebody knob question , why does the shaker bubble need to be raised ?


My guess would be that it has the wrong shaker baseplate on the car, or the engine mounts have sagged and the engine is sitting too low.
But those are just pure speculation. shruggy


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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Originally Posted by Kudakidd
Is the 4 hole better or worse than the fully open hole? Or does it not make a difference. Putting this under my carb to raise the shaker bubble.


Dumb ebody knob question , why does the shaker bubble need to be raised ?


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I've tested alot of spacer combos at the track and the open spacer has always worked best for me.

I usually keep my carbs on the smaller side - I like 750's and 850's.

Perhaps with a bigger carb results may differ.


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