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Aftermarket street/strip car ignition #2932562
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Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.

Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932564
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I like the MSD 6al 2
Nice street strip ignition, that is what i use it for


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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932572
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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.

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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.


I guess I should have added that I don't run vacuum advance. It's a recurved distributor and is at full advance around 2500 rpm. Just curious if there was anything out there other than MSD. Just seeing what other options there are.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.


I guess I should have added that I don't run vacuum advance. It's a recurved distributor and is at full advance around 2500 rpm. Just curious if there was anything out there other than MSD. Just seeing what other options there are.
Check out Progession Ignition.


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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: carnut68] #2932654
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Progression Ignition stuff sure is nice.
I would buy another in a heartbeat.

Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: AndyF] #2932658
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.


I agree, I've had the 6AL and my billet dist for 22 years with no issues


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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932779
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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.


I guess I should have added that I don't run vacuum advance. It's a recurved distributor and is at full advance around 2500 rpm. Just curious if there was anything out there other than MSD. Just seeing what other options there are.


If you are looking for something other than MSD then that is the question you should ask. You'll get better answers if you ask that question.

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Originally Posted by AndyF
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


For a race car the standard setup of a MSD billet distributor and a MSD 6 box seems to work for most people. If it is a street/strip kind of deal where you want vacuum advance then the choices are a little tougher.


I guess I should have added that I don't run vacuum advance. It's a recurved distributor and is at full advance around 2500 rpm. Just curious if there was anything out there other than MSD. Just seeing what other options there are.


If you are looking for something other than MSD then that is the question you should ask. You'll get better answers if you ask that question.

I'm open to MSD ignition. Just seeing other options too. I don't really know about aftermarket ignition systems so I asked that question. I don't even know what distributor, such as an MSD pro billet, will clear an Edelbrock Victor Jr Hemi head and stamped steel valve cover and a factory air cleaner base. I'm just testing the waters and I'll probably ask more questions before I make a choice. Thanks for all the responses.

Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932811
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why don't you want to run vacuum advance ? race only engine i can understand, but if you do any street miles at all, vacuum advance is your friend.
it will take a little tuning of the advance curve inside the distributor, plus adjusting the can [and possibly changing it for a different unit] through the hose nipple, but it will be well worth it in the end.
see the article by e-booger on the "mopar action" magazine site for the how to.
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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: moparx] #2932816
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Originally Posted by moparx
why don't you want to run vacuum advance ? race only engine i can understand, but if you do any street miles at all, vacuum advance is your friend.
it will take a little tuning of the advance curve inside the distributor, plus adjusting the can [and possibly changing it for a different unit] through the hose nipple, but it will be well worth it in the end.
see the article by e-booger on the "mopar action" magazine site for the how to.
beer


We just always run mechanical advance on our stuff for years and worked flawlessly with no issues street driving. shruggy

Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932819
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i'm not implying your combo[s] did not work good as you had them set up, it's just that they could have had the potential to work better, especially in gas mileage at light cruise conditions.
and when sorted out well, the vacuum advance does not take anything away from whatever mechanical setup you currently run. at WOT, the vacuum is practically nil, so it has no effect on a race tune.
i'm a fan of vacuum advance, so this is just my opinion. your mileage will vary.
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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2932850
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Originally Posted by Uncle Barry
Who today makes a good ignition system for my car. I think I may retire my old MP ECU and want something that is dependable and will make some RPM's. No crank triggers.


I have been using a Crane Ignition box with a MP race Hemi tach drive distributor in my Hemi and I would buy the Crane box again. No problems. Mine is the Fireball Hi 6 purchased in the late 90s IIRC.

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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: BloFish] #2933042
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I used the msd streetfire box with good results.....a little cheaper than the 6-AL, has got a rev limiter too and performed flawlessly.

Michael

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Used 6AL's for years and still do on my Barracuda, and have a 6AL2 on my Dart.


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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: MichaelF] #2933110
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Originally Posted by MichaelF
I used the msd streetfire box with good results.....a little cheaper than the 6-AL, has got a rev limiter too and performed flawlessly.

Michael


I have a powerwagon that overheated the coil a few times with stock Electronic ign setup. Switched to a streetfire (atleast 6 years ago) and it has been perfect.

Bought a used 6AL to run on the hot rod with a electronic chrysler distributor and it has been fine too.

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What’s considered Some RPMs ?

What are you shifting at now ?




I love the Firecore distributor with vacuum advance - Adjustability is awesome and easy , ported vacuum - Use factory distributor cap and decent wires

Older Direct Connection Mopar Chrome ECU or the Older Standard LX101 ECU ignition modules


I considered upgrading to a MSD Streetfire module or Pertronix Digital HP when I was chasing RPM issues until

Coils and Ballast


But on a 500 HP Street car , in all honestly what would I gain ?

Starts awesome , idles awesome , destroys the tires awesome , shift around 5400 RPMs with my cam and valve train



Putting together a great quality Factory Stock Type Performance Mopar Ignition System is a little harder today with all this Chinese junk
I guess in reality that’s the biggest issue

I found all my new old stock ignition components on EBay and swap meets

The Firecore distributor, so far so great on the street


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Re: Aftermarket street/strip car ignition [Re: Uncle Barry] #2933183
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I wouldn't buy and try to use a MSD 6AL digital, I know to many people who had them fail down twocents I've never used the MSD street # 6 series boxes but I know a lot of racers that use them on their bracket cars shruggy
I still like and use MSD race ignitions on my race cars, 7AL2, 7C, grid and so on up


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