Re: Windshield Installation Tips
[Re: moepwr]
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04/14/09 11:41 AM
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This is a good post and great timing for me. . . I would love to see some pictures.
I sent you an email with pics.
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
[Re: 68CoronetRT]
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04/14/09 11:46 AM
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Thank you for the email. I will look tonight and make sure I have them in the right places. Thanks again Dean
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 01:35 PM
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Could you post the diagram of where to put the clips? Front and rear? Thanks
These are for a 68 b-body (thanks to Tom at RT Specialties for the posting the pics.)
Front Bottom (10 pcs):
Front Sides (14 pcs):
Rear Window (20 pcs):
Be sure to use the correct screws because heads sticking up too far will cause the molding not to go on.
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 06:12 PM
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Jim, I've followed along on Moparts, your Coronet build up,....NICE car!.....Great work, I'll tell you though, I can machine, fabricate, bodywork paint, and upholester, wiring, engines/transmission, etc, etc, etc,.....But when it comes to front windsheild installs on a 68-70 B body, I'LL GLADLY pay a professional to install it!......if you have your original glass, goodluck, hope it dosen't break ......if you have an installer supply the glass and he breaks it, he replaces it,......your glass, new or old, you might not get someone who wants to install it?.......the B body windsheild gasket is a little trickey to work with, get a guy that's done one before, don't let'em learn on yours I hope you bought a quality repro, or NOS front gasket?.....during the gasket install you want to apply a bead of window adhesive, be it Butuyl, or Acyr ureathane (NO SILICONES) in each lower corner of the winsheild opening, about 6 inches up the A pillar post, and 12 inches along the bottom corner gasket rail, basically an "L" shape bead of sealer, then install the gasket, these two lower corners need to be sealed, even though your using a gasket, at driving speed, the rain/water is forced into these area by airflow at speed, hence the need to seal these corners, before appling the gasket, no sealer is need in fitting the glass into the gasket, do not use any inside the gasket glass reciever edge......again I strongly recommend a professional install the windsheild, just assist if needed, or point out problems The rear window is a cake walk, I prefer to use "window tape", a preformed/sized cord of Butuyl rubber,.....generally the B bodies use the 5/16 sized tape, 3/8 dia. I generally find to thick, makes putting the trim on hard, because the window sits to high, and I hate to force the glass and trim down,....1/4" dia is available, but most times is to thin, the glass sits to low,......but every car is different, glass varies somewhat, shape and thickness wise,....so I generally buy all 3 sizes, 1/4", 5/16", 3/8" to have on hand the day I install,....what I don't need, I keep for another project or return,.....nothing sucks more than to start installing glass, and finding onesself driving back to the store for the smaller/bigger size "tape"....and they don't have it!....sound fimiliar? ..... when you install the tape you think you need, install it in a continus line, with the "seam end" on the bottom window channel, in the middle, it's gooey, so you can mould it together, I generally like to put the "tape/cord" right on the inside edge of the window lip, so that no body color shows if the chrome trim dosen't cover it later, do not attempt to fill the entire window channel with tape, 1 continuious peice is all you need, the cord kits usuall come with 2 or more rubber blocks, about 1/4"X 1/4"square or slightly larger, these are to locate the window, use one in each lower corner, they are to keep the glass from sliding down during your install, remove them after your window sets, or trim them off with a razor, flush to glass height, if they get "glued" in.........if you can install the back glass in the sun, on a nice hot day, it helps "settle" the glass down, when you finally drop the glass down, do check glass height and moulding fit, wether you install the mouldings then or later, to confirm you used the "right sized" tape, nothing sucks worse than to have to cut it out and start over later, if you catch it before it sets up, you can just retape with the larger dia, that you should have on hand just incase.......when you put the moulding down, it's best to mask with some tape, any painted areas next to the mouldings edge, so that you don't chip any paint, assistanted by a helper or not, stuff happens.......I'm sure others will chime in, good luck on the Coronet Jim
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 06:51 PM
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When I remove windshields from b-bodies, it always looks like there's sealant all of the way across the lower channel of the windshield. I had a local glass shop install the windshield in the 67 hemi GTX and it leaks like a sieve. Also, the inside of the gasket is puckered badly where it lays against the dash panel on the inside. We ordered a better gasket from Chuck's which is supposed to be the premium quality gasket. I was planning to add sealant all of the way across and part of the way up the sides. As for the sealant for the front...are you talking about the 3M flowable in a tube or the rope style butyl? Looks like 3M is only making one non urethane sealant for windshields now. I have three winshields to install. The GTX, my Daytona clone and my 68 runner that I just traded for.
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 09:25 PM
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I'm a vender for R/T specialties parts. Make sure you have the right clips for the 10 that go at the bottom of the front windshield. There are two types of clips that were used in 1968, one for early build date cars and another for later build date cars. I just did this same job on my 1968 Dodge Charger last Friday. My car used the early style clips as pictured above. It took two of us about 15 minutes to install the windshield. We used lots of windex, and a couple of plastic sticks. I swear it took us longer to lock the zipper seal than to install the windshield. I also used a new windshield gasket. Don't forget to use some butyl rubber? ribbon seal at the bottom of the windshield channel before installing the rubber windshield gasket.
My car had the bottom clips as pictured. If I read you right you installed the gasket on the window lip and then fit the glass into the gasket?
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
[Re: hotrod98]
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04/14/09 09:36 PM
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When I remove windshields from b-bodies, it always looks like there's sealant all of the way across the lower channel of the windshield. I had a local glass shop install the windshield in the 67 hemi GTX and it leaks like a sieve. Also, the inside of the gasket is puckered badly where it lays against the dash panel on the inside. We ordered a better gasket from Chuck's which is supposed to be the premium quality gasket. I was planning to add sealant all of the way across and part of the way up the sides. As for the sealant for the front...are you talking about the 3M flowable in a tube or the rope style butyl? Looks like 3M is only making one non urethane sealant for windshields now. I have three winshields to install. The GTX, my Daytona clone and my 68 runner that I just traded for.
Wow, three projects and I am struggling with one. There is a 68 GTX down the street from me that has been on blocks for over 10 years. Tried to buy it but they wouldn't even talk to me. Got a peak in the window at the VIN so its not a Hemi car anyway but the mice were tearing up the seats and the sun is drying up everything else.
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 11:02 PM
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Jim, I don't use any Butuyl primer on the glass, never had a problem getting the glass to adhere and seal to the tape, I only use 3M brand tape/cord on the front windshield gasket, I use Butuly rubber (3M) when and if I find it, I usually buy the cartrige tube that fits in a cauking gun, if I can't find pure Butuly(getting harder to find in stock), I'll use 3M's arcylic Ureahthane window adhesive in cartrige form, the ureathane sets up fast, so you have to hustle
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/14/09 11:11 PM
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Hey Larry, The repro B body windshield gaskets leave a lot to be desired,......granted it's a difficult piece to manufactuer,........the only ones I've had luck with are the ones from Legendary,.....I'can't recall at the moment the vendor,....but I'm thinking Metro,..... I know at one time legendary was selling limited supplies of NOS gaskets upon request,......the last NOS one that I purchased from them was about 4 yrs ago.....price wasn't bad, under $200 PS. Larry UPS should be there tommorrow
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Re: Windshield Installation Tips
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04/15/09 08:23 AM
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Thanks for the tips you guys, mine is "looming" and this helps. Is there a particular spacing between the clips at each area i.e.top edge, bottom sides, front winshield, back window,??
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