Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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welcome back, we will look foward to reading your testing results regarding this matter
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
[Re: sixpackgut]
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welcome back, we will look foward to reading your testing results regarding this matter
Thank you... Every few years I get so wrapped up in my other hobby (firearms and hunting) that I take a break from the car. But I'm trying to get motivated again...lol.
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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welcome back, we will look foward to reading your testing results regarding this matter
Thank you... Every few years I get so wrapped up in my other hobby (firearms and hunting) that I take a break from the car. But I'm trying to get motivated again...lol.
Hey Rob, how's this for motivation....
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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IMHO, I dont think it will help ET wise... unless its ducted directly to fresh air off the front of the car. Even then it will probably be minimal..
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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You see carbs sealed to hoods...but almost never a remote cold air box on a carb (when you have no scoop)...why is this? You see them all the time on fuel injected cars.
I know 600 hp LS1 based cars that run these setups...but wouldn't you think stock hooded carb'd cars would benefit from the same setup?
I know they arn't pretty...but if it's functional in acarb'd situation....it would be worth running to me. Would the cooling effect of the atomizing fuel in a carb'd application make this less effective than in a dry intake fuel injected application?
What do you think?
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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Hey Rob... I guess we have more in common than I thought. I have the same hobbies and tend to go towards one or the other, rarely both. You've got some catching up to do... The Charger went 11.4 at Infineon, and since then I've upgraded to real slicks, Cal-tracs and now an 8" converter. Can you say 11.2? ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif) I've been wanting to funnel cold air in from under the car or in the grille area for some time now, just haven't fabbed anything yet.
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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welcome back, we will look foward to reading your testing results regarding this matter
Thank you... Every few years I get so wrapped up in my other hobby (firearms and hunting) that I take a break from the car. But I'm trying to get motivated again...lol.
Hey Rob, how's this for motivation....
10.21 @ 132..... IN VEGAS.
Aww man...I've got my work cut out for me to catch up with you and Dan... Which means more $$$. Of course, going to the track more than once a year would help too..lol
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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IMHO, I dont think it will help ET wise... unless its ducted directly to fresh air off the front of the car. Even then it will probably be minimal..
yeah...thats what I'm wondering...it would have to come off the front of the car to have a chance at helping anything.
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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To be honest, lately the car HAS been the cheaper hobby. stocking up "just in case" has been misery on my hobby fundage. I actually got back into the Charger for some $$$ releif. Fontana should be rather educational. Brian (OU812) swears up and down the first step towards getting my car to reach 10.999999999 is an 8" converter, followed later by some head work and when I get the $$$ a roller cam. The car was begging to leave harder, but my converter said no. If I had just 1/2" to spare, I'd slip my nitrous plate on there and play in the mid 10's... ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) maybe I should drop off my super restrictive $19 Summit mufflers and just let it breathe... I wonder if I could pull air OVER the core support with a wide funnel...
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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On the show today they used a 4" hole saw and put an air horn with a K&N filter in the core supprt
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Re: Why no remote cold air boxes on Carb'd cars?
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the biggest reason you see it more on newer EFI cars and not so much on older iron is packaging--efi cars typically have a side-mounted throttle body at the end of a manifold, vs. a carbed car where it sits on top. and once you get into taller aftermarket intakes on a carbed car, you start running out of room real quick with a flat hood....but I think the results would be similar to running a scoop. biggest thing would be making sure the carb hat is designed to maximize flow, as it has the downside vs. a hood scoop in that it requires the air to make a pretty drastic turn into the top of the carb, vs a straighter shot with a top mounted scoop.
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