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Any roots gasoline guys here? #2765557
04/18/20 04:42 PM
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My data logger is showing me IAT's of 165* or more where my power just goes flat. I want to intercool with nitrous and a plate will not work because the throttle blade hits the crossbar at 1/3 to open.I want to install a pair of fogger nozzles in the 1 inch spacer plates.
Has anyone used juice to intercool??

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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: hemi-itis] #2765580
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Me thinks you are tempting faith, why not use a water /meth injection or straight methanol injection set up instead twocents work

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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2765595
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I went this way,the Nitrous tech has come a long way! Can tune each nozzle from 50 hp which is I want to start with up to 175HP each.This will lower the IAT bt over 100*!!!!! W/M can't do that whistling
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitrous-Ou...trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0

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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2765737
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Me thinks you are tempting faith, why not use a water /meth injection or straight methanol injection set up instead twocents work



Or a Whipple. whistling

Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: ] #2765995
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This may provide some information, if you haven't seen it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-AreBlwVrY

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Way to many hand actions for me to watch very long, wanna be actors down


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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: blowndart] #2766109
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Thanks Jim/ I watched till the end,BUT,,,,,That's for a turbo,is 10 lbs of turbo boost the the same or equal to 10 Lbs of roots boost. Will that data be the same as the nitrous will cool the blower case but not the actual turbo temp . work

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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: hemi-itis] #2766156
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10 lbs on either set up is 10lbs but the temp wont be.. you have a much bigger heat sink
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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: hemi-itis] #2766254
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Originally Posted by hemi-itis
My data logger is showing me IAT's of 165* or more where my power just goes flat. I want to intercool with nitrous and a plate will not work because the throttle blade hits the crossbar at 1/3 to open.I want to install a pair of fogger nozzles in the 1 inch spacer plates.
Has anyone used juice to intercool??


Call Induction Solutions and ask for Steve Johnson to call you back. IM sure they have done this, customer service from this guy is unreal, he will help you every step of the way, all the way to track tuning.


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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: hemi-itis] #2766291
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A spacer below your carbs would put you on the road


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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: hemi-itis] #2766351
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Turbo vs. roots not the same.
Many (conservative) turbo applications have backpressure = boost × 2. This means the chamber is not fully purged each cycle - yours is. With the same manifold pressure a roots has higher combustible charge mass (less exhaust products).


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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Way to many hand actions for me to watch very long, wanna be actors down


haha His animated delivery is very hard to take. The guy churns out a lot of content and mostly devoted to power adder stuff, but it's hard to watch.

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Originally Posted by blowndart
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Way to many hand actions for me to watch very long, wanna be actors down


haha His animated delivery is very hard to take. The guy churns out a lot of content and mostly devoted to power adder stuff, but it's hard to watch.


Yeah I watched it but it was hard.. I dont think he stopped with the hands
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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: n20mstr] #2766944
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Originally Posted by n20mstr
Originally Posted by hemi-itis
My data logger is showing me IAT's of 165* or more where my power just goes flat. I want to intercool with nitrous and a plate will not work because the throttle blade hits the crossbar at 1/3 to open.I want to install a pair of fogger nozzles in the 1 inch spacer plates.
Has anyone used juice to intercool??


Call Induction Solutions and ask for Steve Johnson to call you back. IM sure they have done this, customer service from this guy is unreal, he will help you every step of the way, all the way to track tuning.

Your right Tony,he gave me a thumbs up and said it will work .
I have to decide placement of the nozzle in the spacer plate,not sure if it's not spraying right into the middle if it will effect distribution after going through the blower rotors.Also the carb adapter is necked down.I would think it could flow better with flat sides like the carb spacer.

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Re: Ant roots gasoline guys here? [Re: Clanton] #2766949
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Originally Posted by Clanton
A spacer below your carbs would put you on the road

I spoke to Pat at Pro Systems,he did not like the idea of 2.5 spacer plates.He suggested perimeter plates at $750 a pair.These fogger nozzles are $70 each,more suited to my no budget improvements. violin


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Al, if you have the nozzles, and need help setting them up and install.....I guess your on your way over to Thriftway to see Joe ? or you should be.....

Good luck and stay safe !


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I am glad to see you found some direction on what to do and picked a path.


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I have the tap,just have to figure where to install it today! Thriftway is a ZOO!!
Thanks for the referral Tony. Joe and his brother & father are good people! up


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Originally Posted by Clanton
I am glad to see you found some direction on what to do and picked a path.


Mike,will you ever put yours back on??


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Yes as soon as I put in the trans and test it n/a around the block
Originally Posted by hemi-itis
Originally Posted by Clanton
I am glad to see you found some direction on what to do and picked a path.


Mike,will you ever put yours back on??


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