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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BradH]
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03/31/09 02:54 PM
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Since the stuff has a high TBN level (12), it "should" be able to last quite a while and not need to be changed as frequently as oils w/ lower TBN ratings.
And, at $10 a quart, I'd hope it wouldn't need to be drained as frequently, either.
Good ole Amsoil ....  ...and their marketing BS ...
WHERE do they suggest that the combustion by-products GO ... that are in their oil vs staying in the other brands ?
10$ a quart ? .... that is due to their multi-level-sales and marketing program that has so many hands-in-the-pie.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BradH]
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03/31/09 07:39 PM
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So far...
Replies = 1
Value Added = 0
Oh really now ? ..... and my responses were directly ON TOPIC....to exactly what you said.
PLUS ... Wasn't it YOU that stated this ?
""""""" Any other comments about the product are appreciated, too. """"""
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BradH]
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03/31/09 09:06 PM
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You should contact member "Locomotion",Myron Piatek.He swears by Amsoil and has been using it for many years.There was also a thread about synthetics and a post was made about the price being cheaper that $10 a quart.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: Chris2581]
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03/31/09 09:10 PM
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I've been using Amsoil for 20 + years in everything I own. I can also tell you how to get it for less than $10, just pm me. There are lots of great oils out there.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/01/09 10:52 AM
04/01/09 10:52 AM
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So far...
Replies = 1
Value Added = 0
Oh really now ? ..... and my responses were directly ON TOPIC....to exactly what you said.
PLUS ... Wasn't it YOU that stated this ?
""""""" Any other comments about the product are appreciated, too. """"""
Next time I'll be sure to specify VALUE-ADDING comments, rather than ANY.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: hemi471]
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04/01/09 01:23 PM
04/01/09 01:23 PM
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What Amsoil says is that the oil is good for 25000 miles...
That's for passenger cars only. For race applications, they tell you something along the lines of "follow your engine builder's recommendations" or to monitor the oil w/ a scheduled analysis program.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/02/09 02:06 AM
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There are those who are afraid of it. And there are those who knock it. Then there are those who actually do it. Extended Oil Drain technology has existed since 1972. The links below show how Used Oil Analysis (UOA) can support a lube manufactures claims. Independent person... Independent lab... 0W-30, 20,000-mile UOA report, 2004 Crown Victoria - link 0W-20, 28,000-mile UOA report, 2003 Sable - link 0W-30, 30,726-mile UOA report, 2003 Honda S2000 - linkGet the Series 2000 HDD, do a UOA when it comes time and don’t look back.  CompSyn
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: mac56]
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04/02/09 02:16 AM
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Hey Brad I hope you feel this is on topic because I was going to start an oil thread asking about synthetic oils. I have been reading about different synthetic oils with different base stocks Amsoil is supposed to be POA base stock oil with ester base stock being the best and POA being second best but much cheaper. My transmission builder uses amsoil in his 1500 hp nitrous engine on alcohol and is very happy with it. Maybe some of the chemists will chime in.
Amsoil has many formulations that are PAO/Ester based - hence the high price tag. They also have Group III formulations which are more in line with the cost of Valvoline SynPower, Pennzoil Platinum and Mobil 1 varieties.
It all depends on how exotic one wants to go.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: Chris2581]
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04/02/09 02:30 AM
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You should contact member "Locomotion",Myron Piatek.He swears by Amsoil and has been using it for many years.There was also a thread about synthetics and a post was made about the price being cheaper that $10 a quart.
Amsoil Preferred Customer Discount - link
There’s no need for anyone to have to pay retail...
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/02/09 09:34 AM
04/02/09 09:34 AM
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... but I will be-back.
No problem. But since I'm not an Amsoil "drone" and am simply trying to get answers to my questions, please stop posting on this thread.
If you have a need to start an Amsoil-specific debate, you should start your own thread. I'd be more than interested in reading it to see what comes of it.
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Re: Question for Amsoil racing oil users
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/02/09 01:27 PM
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Hey CompSyn .... you speak well of the product ... just like anyone who has their hands in-the-profit pie of Amsoil sales.
How about a person like myself ....... that is just SKEPTICAL of the whole Amsoil "deal" ?
SKEPTICAL .... of just WHERE do all the combustion by-products go during the 25,000 miles that this oil is being used. Does this oil have some way to "magically" make these by-products disappear?
SKEPTICAL ..... that these sales people are just not up-front with everyone on WHY these Amsoil products are so expensive. SIMPLY .. because it is a multi-level-marketing program that it HAS to be that way ... because so many people in this pyramind have to make a profit.
Doublely SKEPTICAL .... since lots of these Amsoil advertising claims CLAIM that their product is so much better than the competition. Yet no independent proof is ever supplied.
And NO .... I am not talking about the infomercial like Prolong ....when they had Al Unser driving a Viper around a race-track with NO OIL in the motor at all. And then after an hour or so ... saying the motor was fine.
Well .... enough from me for now ... I have been up since 6am yesterday ....time to hit-the-hay .... but I will be-back.
You’re skeptical. That’s perfectly understandable. Unconventional claims can be intimidating. If anyone would like data to help address their reservations about this topic, feel free to ask.
For now, the question of combustion by-products keeps coming up. Below, a few related motor oil chemical component definitions.
Dispersant: A dispersing agent, which holds a very finely divided substance in a dispersed state in the carrier fluid. Such as sludge or a wear particles in a motor oil.
Detergency: The ability of an oil to keep working surfaces of equipment clean (i.e. free from contaminants) by holding oil-insoluble material in suspension thus preventing deposition where it would be harmful.
Total Base Number (TBN): The quantity of acid, expressed in terms of the number of milligrams that is required to neutralize all basic constituents present in one-gram sample. Otherwise known as ASTM Method D-644, D-974, or D-2896.
The above three chemical compounds are just a few of the items found in all modern day motor oils. These compounds of various grades and quantities are formulated into the finished product by formulators in order to meet current API – ILSAC specifications. Further, motor oil formulators have the ability to formulate their products with more or less of these compounds giving their products designability and proprietary characteristics.
For example compare the differences of TBN content in the popular motor oils below.
ClickHERE for a larger image.
Application: When a Used Oil Analysis UOA report comes back, TBN is often used to determine how long a motor oil can be used in the specific application it is utilized in. Note: A TBN value of one(1) on a UOA report is considered to be low.
This is just some of the story of how motor oils can be designed with extended life in mind.
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