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Raising Rear Suspension #2644070
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What's involved and costs etc of raising the rear suspension on my 70 Satellite ? Want to get bigger tyres under there so only want to raise it a bit, thanks

Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: JFChallenger440] #2644079
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what rear suspension do you have? leaf spring, ladder bar, 4 link?

Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: JFChallenger440] #2644083
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Originally Posted by JFChallenger440
What's involved and costs etc of raising the rear suspension on my 70 Satellite ? Want to get bigger tyres under there so only want to raise it a bit, thanks


You might be able to take the front spring hanger and flip it upside down, effectively putting the leaf mount lower on the body, raising the car up a bit. However, the bolt pattern is not exactly symetrical from what i remember, so you can elongate the holes slightly to flip it. I believe the upper holes are slightly closer together than the lower ones. You can confirm by looking at the nuts on the front side to see pattern. I have done this very slight mod before with no problem. I dont remember how much height i gained, but maybe 3/4-1”.


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Chargerfan68] #2644112
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Mancini has hangers with 2 positions, not sure if one is stock and one is lower or higher.

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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: challenger70] #2644131
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You will get very little lift by repositioning that front hanger. I don't know how much more clearance you're looking for, but if only very little, like MAYBE 1/2" or less, you might get that from the front hanger. But I think you're really going to have to spring (haha) for the cost of new leafs with added leafs to get significant lift. twocents


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: JFChallenger440] #2644152
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Originally Posted by JFChallenger440
What's involved and costs etc of raising the rear suspension on my 70 Satellite ? Want to get bigger tyres under there so only want to raise it a bit, thanks



call espo and get some +2" springs. should bring it up some.. http://www.springsnthings.com/


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Chargerfan68] #2644158
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Flipping the stock front hangar will LOWER the car.

Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: JFChallenger440] #2644306
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Here is a recent thread on this subject. The search function is your friend.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...e-need-more-rear-spring.html#Post2623641


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: DaveRS23] #2644382
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Cheapest would be to get a helper leaf spring and add it in to your existing leaf spring pack. Some guys even get junkyard springs and add a leaf to their existing springs. Better would be to have your springs re-arced or replace them with aftermarket but that would be more expensive.

Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2644404
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Even cheaper for longer shackles

But I wouldn't do that or helper springs either


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Supercuda] #2644511
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What is wrong with using leaf type helper springs to raise the rear the little bit that the OP wants?


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: DaveRS23] #2644512
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Somebody original resto numbers guy will point it out somewhere along the line... shruggy


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: DaveRS23] #2644514
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
What is wrong with using leaf type helper springs to raise the rear the little bit that the OP wants?


Because it's a crutch and the cheap ones make it handle squirrelly.

.there are some areas you shouldn't cheap out on, brakes and suspension being in the top of that list

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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Supercuda] #2644656
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Originally Posted by Supercuda
Originally Posted by DaveRS23
What is wrong with using leaf type helper springs to raise the rear the little bit that the OP wants?


Because it's a crutch and the cheap ones make it handle squirrelly.

.there are some areas you shouldn't cheap out on, brakes and suspension being in the top of that list


To bash an entire product line based on the cheapest ones available is disingenuous.

So how about the Hellwig brand of helper springs? They are American made, family owned, known for quality, and are not cheap. As for being 'a crutch', when properly applied, adding a half leaf helper is no more of a 'crutch' than adding a full leaf to a set of springs. Both are in reality helper springs. In fact, most of our Mopars came with half leafs from the factory. Those are essentially half leaf helpers. Proving that helper springs, when used correctly, most certainly have a place on our cars. Plus, the Hellwigs have the advantage of being adjustable.

So what is wrong with adding a quality American made half leaf that is fully adjustable?


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: DaveRS23] #2644658
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Because someone saiod "cheapest way is helper springs" Pay attention.


But if you are going to piss away Hellwig money on helper springs just buy the new correct ones.

It's not rocket science.


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: JFChallenger440] #2644694
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This is just a thought and I'll probably take heat for saying this, but what about a set of Monroe air shocks for around $70 or $80 bucks.

Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Supercuda] #2644699
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Always with a caustic response.

Hellwigs are cheaper than a new set of springs, but are not cheap. Two different things there. And they are adjustable. And they will do exactly what the OP wants with no down side. And a new set of leaf springs is no guarantee that the OP will be any happier down the road. Plenty of threads here about that subject.

So why shouldn't the OP use quality adjustable leaf helper springs?


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: BlueRacer69] #2644733
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Originally Posted by BlueRacer69
This is just a thought and I'll probably take heat for saying this, but what about a set of Monroe air shocks for around $70 or $80 bucks.


Air shocks would be my first choice too, however..... a good inspection of the upper mounts would be required. They're only sheet metal and not really designed to hold up the car so if they're not in good shape it would be a crap shoot. Generally speaking air shocks and Mopars don't mix well for that reason.

I put Monroe's on my '64 Polara Super Stock recreation, but I also heavily reinforced the upper shock mounts by welding in a 2"x 2" square .120 wall crossmember. Works well too.


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: forphorty] #2644746
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Originally Posted by forphorty
Flipping the stock front hangar will LOWER the car.


Yes, you are absolutely right. My mistake. I have mp superstock hangers on my cars for the past 11 years or so, so i was relying on a picture of stock hangers when i answered. Sorry to the OP.


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Re: Raising Rear Suspension [Re: Chargerfan68] #2644759
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I'm sticking with my original answer. The right way to do it is new springs with additional leaf/leafs, or same number replacing worn ones. If that's "bashing" something, I'm sorry.


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