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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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very close to mine
There is no room for adjustment. Or did you bend the steering arms out?
Or should I say, Did Dave Christie and Herb Mc bend the steering arms out?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Couple of important things to look at are, when you have the suspension at curb height, is the rack level with the steering arms... thats very important. You also want the inner tie rod pivot to be in the same plane as the inner lower control arm pivot... these 2 things minimize toe change during suspension travel EDIT On the length, just cut it shorter and re thread it, but do that later when you have everything in the proper location, will the tie rods be on top or bottom of the steering arms
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Couple of important things to look at are, when you have the suspension at curb height, is the rack level with the steering arms... thats very important. You also want the inner tie rod pivot to be in the same plane as the inner lower control arm pivot... these 2 things minimize toe change during suspension travel
So at ride height the rack and tie rods should be straight across?
The ball and socket is very close to if not in line with the lower control arm pivot
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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EDIT On the length, just cut it shorter and re thread it, but do that later when you have everything in the proper location, will the tie rods be on top or bottom of the steering arms
Well at ride height it looks like the tie rods will be below the steering arm.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Hey jesse
racks way too low and those brakes and wheel adapters are scary.
As much as you have cut away already maybe go with some mustang II stuff CHEAP and lots of aftermarket brake options.
or do up a strut suspension cant tell from pictures how low your engine sits as far as how much you can raise the rack but as stated the rack must go up to have the right arc travel also if you swap spindles left to right you mess with the camber to get that back you have to move your lower or uper control arm mounting points .
its not a real quick bolt in to do it right not real hard but anyway you do it it wll take some time and fabing and meausuring.
unless you open the wallet for aftermarket bolt in suspension..
been real bussy but give me a call maybe i can walk you through it.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Ok did some measuring and blueprinting in my head The rack can be moved up 4-5", but at ride height it looks like it will only have to be moved up about 3". I'll radius out the 2x4" tubing I have tacked in there for the rack and that will make plenty of room. Mr P how did you cut and rethread your tie rods? The reason I ask is the dia of the rod is much too big to just run a die over. The only thing I can see is to remove the ball and socket from the rack and turn in a lathe. My other question is, the drivers side has a plate with two mounting holes. There is nothing on the passenger side to mount. It's just a smooth housing. How do you mount this side?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Mr P how did you cut and rethread your tie rods? The reason I ask is the dia of the rod is much too big to just run a die over. The only thing I can see is to remove the ball and socket from the rack and turn in a lathe.
Jesse, they make a kit that has sleeves that slides over your steering arms on the rack, and it has hymes with it to bolt your steering arms to.
We did ours last year and here are a couple pictures.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Wow Jeff you really have your rack way up front. If I moved mine that far forward I dont think I'd have any problems. I could easily get the rack at the right elevation. Will the tie rods being angled back like that effect anything?
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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What is more important? 1. Having the rack level with the steering arms or 2. Having the ball and socket at proper elevation and in line with lower control arm pivot. It has to be one or the other. Looking at it, I can't do both.
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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What is more important?
1. Having the rack level with the steering arms
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2. Having the ball and socket at proper elevation and in line with lower control arm pivot.
It has to be one or the other. Looking at it, I can't do both.
You really need to do both... either one can change the toe curve during the travel
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Re: Pinto Duster steering part 2
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Whar spindle's/ball joints do you have dodgeman ?
Their strange struts.
We put all that on last year at this time, there is a build up on here somewhere of it.
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