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To hollow cat., or not? #257290
03/17/09 05:47 PM
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I have a 94 5.9 V8 in my truck. I think my catalytic converter is clogged, so I kind of want to hollow it out, because its not as loud as I think it should be, and open up. I'm afraid of triggering the O2 sensor or loosing back pressure, therefore losing power. What do you guys think I should do?

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I have a 94 5.9 V8 in my truck. I think my catalytic converter is clogged,




So have it checked

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so I kind of want to hollow it out, because its not as loud as I think it should be, and open up.






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I'm afraid of triggering the O2 sensor or loosing back pressure, therefore losing power.




It will...

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What do you guys think I should do?





If you want loud get a louder muffler


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?

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Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?




Do you have to pass an EMISSIONS TEST ??? You can't just hollow it out . Mopar cats do clog , replace it , get a hi flow cat if you want more flow .

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No emissions on a 94.

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Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?




Do you have to pass an EMISSIONS TEST ??? You can't just hollow it out . Mopar cats do clog , replace it , get a hi flow cat if you want more flow .




If you have to deal with emissions, get a high flow cat.
If there's an Oxygen sensor after the cat more than likely it's going to trip a fault code if you eliminate the cat.

Factory Mopar cats are fairly restrictive so any aftermarket cat will probably flow more especially if you get a high flow one.

If you want it louder you alot of people leave on the cat and get rid of the muffler. It gives you a throaty glass pack like sound, but not as raspy.


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So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?

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So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?




Replace it with a DynoMax Super Converter or similar and be done with it.

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So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?




no cat wont pass NYS inspection.

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No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO

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No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...

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No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...





I am sorry---what part did you or I miss? He said "no emissions on a 94". (????)

Re: To hollow cat., or not? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #257302
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No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...





I am sorry---what part did you or I miss? He said "no emissions on a 94". (????)




No emissions test for '95 and older in NY state. Still, I suggest you replace it with a high-flow aftermarket cat-con. For $60, your sensors will be happy, you'll be happy, and Mother Earth will be happy.

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Is there a SEPARATE visual inspection from the "emission-test" requirement?

Re: To hollow cat., or not? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #257304
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Metro NYC testing is done with a "sniffer". Upstate is just a visual, if its there physically its ok. Pre '96 does not require NYSVIP to be plugged into vehicle (OBD II only, 96 and later).
Check engine light can not be on.

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Metro NYC testing is done with a "sniffer". Upstate is just a visual, if its there physically its ok. Pre '96 does not require NYSVIP to be plugged into vehicle (OBD II only, 96 and later).
Check engine light can not be on.




remove check engine light
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If the check engine light does not come on initial key to run position (i.e. bulb check) it fails!!!

Re: To hollow cat., or not? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #257307
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With a 94 it is unlikely that the engine light will come on. I had a 96 full size that the cat had failed completely on(chamber was empty) and no light on.


I agree for 60 bucks just replace it. No fear of future emmisions hassels, and better for resale.

It won't lose you or gain you any power either way. Modern cats flow quite well.

I will ad, I worked on a 03 explorer at work today. It needs cats too. Nearly 1200 cdn for the cats alone. I can see trying tio find a way around that, but not around 60 to 200 bucks

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I knew that was coming---take your chances. Given the people I see in Washington administering these "tests" its worth a shot.

And the flip side, TRY hollowing out the cat--if the light comes on, BUY a new cat. A no-dollar attempt at the idea.

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since you dont have emissions, remove the cat and dont worry about it. If you pop a code for the cat then take your rear most o2 sensor and put it in the frame rail. It just looks for clean air, and that will trick the computer to thinking you have a cat on there. I wont say how I know this.


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