Moparts

To hollow cat., or not?

Posted By: Anonymous

To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 09:47 PM

I have a 94 5.9 V8 in my truck. I think my catalytic converter is clogged, so I kind of want to hollow it out, because its not as loud as I think it should be, and open up. I'm afraid of triggering the O2 sensor or loosing back pressure, therefore losing power. What do you guys think I should do?
Posted By: HealthServices

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 10:01 PM

Quote:

I have a 94 5.9 V8 in my truck. I think my catalytic converter is clogged,




So have it checked

Quote:

so I kind of want to hollow it out, because its not as loud as I think it should be, and open up.






Quote:

I'm afraid of triggering the O2 sensor or loosing back pressure, therefore losing power.




It will...

Quote:

What do you guys think I should do?





If you want loud get a louder muffler
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 10:05 PM

Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 10:08 PM

Quote:

Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?




Do you have to pass an EMISSIONS TEST ??? You can't just hollow it out . Mopar cats do clog , replace it , get a hi flow cat if you want more flow .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 10:31 PM

No emissions on a 94.
Posted By: SNK-EYZ

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 10:35 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?




Do you have to pass an EMISSIONS TEST ??? You can't just hollow it out . Mopar cats do clog , replace it , get a hi flow cat if you want more flow .




If you have to deal with emissions, get a high flow cat.
If there's an Oxygen sensor after the cat more than likely it's going to trip a fault code if you eliminate the cat.

Factory Mopar cats are fairly restrictive so any aftermarket cat will probably flow more especially if you get a high flow one.

If you want it louder you alot of people leave on the cat and get rid of the muffler. It gives you a throaty glass pack like sound, but not as raspy.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 11:03 PM

So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?
Posted By: In_The_Pink

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/17/09 11:39 PM

Quote:

So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?




Replace it with a DynoMax Super Converter or similar and be done with it.
Posted By: 05dakota

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:07 AM

Quote:

So getting rid of it all together is no good? Lose hp?




no cat wont pass NYS inspection.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:10 AM

Quote:

No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:40 AM

Quote:

Quote:

No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:46 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...





I am sorry---what part did you or I miss? He said "no emissions on a 94". (????)
Posted By: In_The_Pink

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

No emissions on a 94.




Hollow it out. I've run test pipes on two different cars with success. At least give it a shot. JMO




But if it trips a check engine fault and they connect a machine to the truck like they do in other states that have commiefornia emissions stds , NY is one i think , it will not pass , they see the light it fails .

Or in some states it's a visual , they look under the truck , NO cat , no pass .


but it's good for you to give the answer the OP is FISHING for ...





I am sorry---what part did you or I miss? He said "no emissions on a 94". (????)




No emissions test for '95 and older in NY state. Still, I suggest you replace it with a high-flow aftermarket cat-con. For $60, your sensors will be happy, you'll be happy, and Mother Earth will be happy.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:53 AM

Is there a SEPARATE visual inspection from the "emission-test" requirement?
Posted By: teflon

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:55 AM

Metro NYC testing is done with a "sniffer". Upstate is just a visual, if its there physically its ok. Pre '96 does not require NYSVIP to be plugged into vehicle (OBD II only, 96 and later).
Check engine light can not be on.
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 12:57 AM

Quote:

Metro NYC testing is done with a "sniffer". Upstate is just a visual, if its there physically its ok. Pre '96 does not require NYSVIP to be plugged into vehicle (OBD II only, 96 and later).
Check engine light can not be on.




remove check engine light
there are ways around 'the man'
Posted By: teflon

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 01:03 AM

If the check engine light does not come on initial key to run position (i.e. bulb check) it fails!!!
Posted By: dave571

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 01:06 AM

With a 94 it is unlikely that the engine light will come on. I had a 96 full size that the cat had failed completely on(chamber was empty) and no light on.


I agree for 60 bucks just replace it. No fear of future emmisions hassels, and better for resale.

It won't lose you or gain you any power either way. Modern cats flow quite well.

I will ad, I worked on a 03 explorer at work today. It needs cats too. Nearly 1200 cdn for the cats alone. I can see trying tio find a way around that, but not around 60 to 200 bucks
Posted By: Pacnorthcuda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 01:07 AM

I knew that was coming---take your chances. Given the people I see in Washington administering these "tests" its worth a shot.

And the flip side, TRY hollowing out the cat--if the light comes on, BUY a new cat. A no-dollar attempt at the idea.

cajones
Posted By: blk00rt

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 01:42 AM

since you dont have emissions, remove the cat and dont worry about it. If you pop a code for the cat then take your rear most o2 sensor and put it in the frame rail. It just looks for clean air, and that will trick the computer to thinking you have a cat on there. I wont say how I know this.
Posted By: Silver70

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/18/09 05:44 AM

I'd get a high flow cat. I had to replace the one on my ram, the honeycombs inside slid out of place and acted like it was plugged up. It picked up 2mpg and ran alot better... and I mean before I had that problem.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/19/09 10:32 PM

Thanks for the input. Yes we have emissions here in NY, but for 96 and greater. I think what i'm going to do though, is replace it with high flow cat. just in case.
Posted By: Cooda

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/20/09 05:20 PM

I gutted my cat on my 93 Ram with no issues or codes. Without hooking up a sniffer to the exhaust there is no way to know the cat has been gutted.
Posted By: patrick

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/20/09 06:03 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Its in the garage with no transmission. I already have a custom Magnaflow exhaust from the cat back. I am also running headers. Not saying I want it louder, but my father in law was running the same system with manifolds, and was louder. Anyone else hollow the cat, or replace it with a straight pipe, or aftermarket piece?




Do you have to pass an EMISSIONS TEST ??? You can't just hollow it out . Mopar cats do clog , replace it , get a hi flow cat if you want more flow .




If you have to deal with emissions, get a high flow cat.
If there's an Oxygen sensor after the cat more than likely it's going to trip a fault code if you eliminate the cat.

Factory Mopar cats are fairly restrictive so any aftermarket cat will probably flow more especially if you get a high flow one.

If you want it louder you alot of people leave on the cat and get rid of the muffler. It gives you a throaty glass pack like sound, but not as raspy.




what I did on my old ram, with a Y after the cat and straight pipes (2.25") out the back with 4"dia 18" long tips. sounded awesome. you can get a dual in/ single out universal replacement or a dual in dual out for ~$95 at summit.
Posted By: mikepar

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/20/09 06:12 PM

thats a valuable piece of onfo there, do I owe you anything?, I can pay you something in the future when I actualy do this psyc...thanks
BLKOrT
Posted By: Dcuda69

Re: To hollow cat., or not? - 03/20/09 07:28 PM

Quote:

since you dont have emissions, remove the cat and dont worry about it. If you pop a code for the cat then take your rear most o2 sensor and put it in the frame rail. It just looks for clean air, and that will trick the computer to thinking you have a cat on there. I wont say how I know this.




1st off, the OP's trk is a 94,so it's OBDI, no post cat o2 sensor,so no way to monitor cat efficiency=NO CODES. 2nd, your idea of what a post cat o2 sensor does or functions and how OBDII systems function are waaaaaay off base! Be careful giving totally wrong advise!
© 2024 Moparts Forums