Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Which master cylinder should I use? #2544579
09/02/18 12:29 PM
09/02/18 12:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 501
Easton, PA
68DART360 Offline OP
mopar
68DART360  Offline OP
mopar

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 501
Easton, PA
I have stock front disc brakes and Wilwood rear drag disc brakes. Should I get the MP 1 1/32 or 1 1/8 bore master cylinder? Other suggestions for a new brake master cylinder?

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544610
09/02/18 01:26 PM
09/02/18 01:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,687
Wichita
G
GY3 Offline
master
GY3  Offline
master
G

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,687
Wichita
Originally Posted By 68DART360
I have stock front disc brakes and Wilwood rear drag disc brakes. Should I get the MP 1 1/32 or 1 1/8 bore master cylinder? Other suggestions for a new brake master cylinder?


It depends on the pedal throw and firmness you desire.

A 1 1/8" bore truck master is very firm and a short throw but I prefer that. 15/16 rwd car master is preferred by quite a few people.

O'Reillys sells the aluminum MC's for $26.


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: GY3] #2544689
09/02/18 03:29 PM
09/02/18 03:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,228
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Offline
I Win
Cab_Burge  Offline
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,228
Bend,OR USA
Originally Posted By GY3
[quote=68DART360]

A 1 1/8" bore truck master is very firm and a short throw but I prefer that. 15/16 rwd car master is preferred by quite a few people.
iagree Smaller stops better with a lot less pedal effort work


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544723
09/02/18 05:03 PM
09/02/18 05:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,877
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,877
Rio Linda, CA
Originally Posted By 68DART360
Should I get the MP 1 1/32 or 1 1/8 bore master cylinder?


Sometimes you don't have a choice; if the combination of calipers and the pedal ratio require more fluid volume, you'll have to sacrifice line pressure and go with the larger diameter MC or live with a low pedal.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: John_Kunkel] #2544734
09/02/18 05:33 PM
09/02/18 05:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,555
Rittman Ohio
fourgearsavoy Offline
I Live Here
fourgearsavoy  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,555
Rittman Ohio
I have the same basic setup on my Savoy and I have used the 1 1/8 bore master from Wagner and then tried the 7/8 bore Strange unit and the pedal feel wasn't that drastic. Both performed well but the Strange unit had a more aggressive stop than the Wagner unit. Both of them felt confident but the Wagner was "smoother" shruggy
I think the Wagner was an 85 Dodge Diplomat application.

I use them without any prop valve just a distribution block and the car stops perfectly from 125 MPH.


Gus beer


64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
Dana 60
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544770
09/02/18 07:11 PM
09/02/18 07:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,684
W. Kentucky
justinp61 Offline
I Live Here
justinp61  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 11,684
W. Kentucky
My 69 Dart has Strange front brakes and Wilwood rears and I tried the 1 1/32" mc and didn't like it at all. The car currently has a 15/16" mc and stops much better. Originally I had bbp disk on the front and Wilwoods on the rear with a 73 proportion valve with a factory small drum mc and it stopped great. I'd really like to try a 7/8" bore mc some time.

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: GY3] #2544772
09/02/18 07:24 PM
09/02/18 07:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,009
Richmond Twp. Mi.
Mr340 Offline
super stock
Mr340  Offline
super stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,009
Richmond Twp. Mi.
[/quote]


A 1 1/8" bore truck master is very firm and a short throw but I prefer that. 15/16 rwd car master is preferred by quite a few people.

O'Reillys sells the aluminum MC's for $26. [/quote]


Part # ?

Last edited by Mr340; 09/02/18 07:25 PM.
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: Mr340] #2544796
09/02/18 08:46 PM
09/02/18 08:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,687
Wichita
G
GY3 Offline
master
GY3  Offline
master
G

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,687
Wichita


'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544805
09/02/18 09:11 PM
09/02/18 09:11 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,200
aZLiViN
J
J_BODY Offline
I Live Here
J_BODY  Offline
I Live Here
J

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,200
aZLiViN
Wilwood fronts, Strange rears.... even with the drum rears prefered the 15/16 bore. Still might try proportioning a little more to the rear one day. Currently running no prop valve

http://www.doctordiff.com/aluminum-master-cylinder-kit.html

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544807
09/02/18 09:14 PM
09/02/18 09:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,009
Richmond Twp. Mi.
Mr340 Offline
super stock
Mr340  Offline
super stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,009
Richmond Twp. Mi.
Thanks up

Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2544894
09/03/18 01:35 AM
09/03/18 01:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,102
Massillon, Ohio
C
cudatom Offline
super stock
cudatom  Offline
super stock
C

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,102
Massillon, Ohio
Originally Posted By 68DART360
I have stock front disc brakes and Wilwood rear drag disc brakes. Should I get the MP 1 1/32 or 1 1/8 bore master cylinder? Other suggestions for a new brake master cylinder?


I had the same set up in my Cuda since 1988 I used the stock master and factory plumbing. The only thing I did was pull the residual valve out of the master cylinder. It was simple process. Inserted a small screw into the brake line(rear brakes) seat cone in the master, wiggled it out and the residual valve popped out. Inserted the seat cone then the line and blead the system. It has a great pedal The car was not super fast ran 10 teens at 130.


Ok
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: Mr340] #2544998
09/03/18 11:34 AM
09/03/18 11:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 501
Easton, PA
68DART360 Offline OP
mopar
68DART360  Offline OP
mopar

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 501
Easton, PA
I forgot to mention I currently have a master cylinder from a drum front and rear in the car now. I will probably try the 1 1/8 from Napa. Thanks for the link to the part numbers. beer Cudatom, I had recently seen that trick but was planning to replace my master cylinder which is leaking like crazy.

Last edited by 68DART360; 09/03/18 11:37 AM.
Re: Which master cylinder should I use? [Re: 68DART360] #2545063
09/03/18 01:10 PM
09/03/18 01:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
I'm gonna change out my master on the Rampage..
its a fairly light car but the pedal is just a
little too hard.. is I recall its a 7/8" now
but I think I'll put a 3/4" on it.. it has
Strange struts in front and ford big drums brakes
on the rear.. no prop valve







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1