Better EFI system?
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Hi all,
I was hoping to get a EFi system and I wanted to hear people's opinion on which is better Fittech or Holley Sniper EFI?
Thanks
Mike
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Re: Better EFI system?
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I don't have either, but from what I have read, and the people I have spoken with I would go Holley. Seems the fitech has some issues and they don't have much support.
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Re: Better EFI system?
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Look into the MSD Atomic setup as well. I have one but have not used it on the street yet. I have it running on a 340 on a test stand and out of the box I was able to fire up the engine and break it in with no problems. Its a nice basic setup and it will control timing and can trigger fans, etc. Whatever you decide to get, do not skimp on the fuel pump setup. If you dont get a good pump your pissing in the wind with any brand FI.
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Re: Better EFI system?
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Thanks all. I planned on using the electric pump that comes with the EFI set up. My hope is to have a good working system that starts right away, self tunes itself and doesn’t vapor lock
Mike
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Re: Better EFI system?
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I think what they are telling you is to budget an extra grand for a functional fuel delivery system. Because I can tell you that just putting the included pump in place of the original mechanical pump will not work well.
There are many ways to do it but the labor/cost ratio depends on your skill set and/or check book.
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Re: Better EFI system?
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How would people do the plumbing for a job like this with a car that had a mechanical fuel pump? I run a standard 3/8' line with a return line.
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Re: Better EFI system?
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This is starting to sound ominous, like I am steering on a straight a head course for the Bermuda triangle of fuel!!
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Re: Better EFI system?
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Just installed a Sniper EFI on my 512 stroker a couple weeks ago. There really isn't any aftermarket support for my car in the way of EFI gas tanks, so I ordered the Master Kit which included in the fuel pump and other goodies. Mounted the pump and filters to a piece of aluminum stock that in turned got mounted in front of the tank using the strap bolts. New 3/8" nickle-copper return and supply lines also ran. Had to modify my sender for 3/8" pickup as well using bulkhead connectors.
It's a bit more involved wiring wise than what the marketing leads you to believe, but it worked out great. On the first startup it was pig rich until it got warmed up enough to trigger learning mode. After that and a few miles the A/F ratio was where it needed to be. Startups are instantaneous and I gained quite a bit of power overall (that last bit probably has more to do with the fact the carb was undersized and the fuel lines were replaced). Didn't do anything tuning wise yet aside from answer the initial questions on the handheld.
The Master Kit was $1250, tubing for the feed/return was $120 and add another $300 for fittings and other material.
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Did FiTech with Spectra tank, most economical solution I could find. Used my 5/16" fuel line as the return and added a 3/8" fuel line.
Spectra is an all in one solution and much cheaper than Tanks where you have to buy everything separate. Add to that venting the Spectra tank is much easier. If you have your OEM vapor seperator you sre golden. Craig
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Re: Better EFI system?
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I have FiTech on my 451 stroker ( the Holley wasn't available yet). I used the Aeromotive Phantom fuel pump, and used new 3/8 hard line and black braided line to make new fuel lines. I think I have about $1600 in the whole set up, including buying a new fuel tank. That said, the Phantom pump is great. The FiTech still needs some tweaking. I don't have many miles on it yet, so perhaps it needs to keep learning, but so far I can't say it infinitely better than the carb I was running. Starting is about the same. Cold accelerating is way better than the carb, but once the engine is warmed up I can't tell a big difference. I will continue to tweak it, but as of now, I can't honestly say that I would do the fuel injection again. The Phantom pump, however, is awesome.
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