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Timing issue or ?????? Update ..... found problem #2502444 05/30/18 10:59 PM 05/30/18 10:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Just had a set of -1s porter along with the intake, now I’m only running 30degs of timing but the car wants to stall, before it was back firing through the intake and now it’s popping through the exhaust.. not much but I can hear it. Any ideas .. my Brian is fried from working on it no stop for 3 days and have had now but problems.. thanks guys Last edited by 70dusterjohn; 06/03/18 05:26 PM.

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502447 05/30/18 11:02 PM 05/30/18 11:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina sgcuda master
sgcuda master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina	Recheck the firing order. [image][/image]

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502451 05/30/18 11:07 PM 05/30/18 11:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Did that. This is a crank trigger ignition .. gap was checked lined up with the mag in the wheel.checked timing it was a 26 dregs ... I’m at a lose . I have had the dizzy in and out 20 times. Fazed the cap for number one . I’m just at that point.. seems nothing I do helps

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502455 05/30/18 11:15 PM 05/30/18 11:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,363 Cotati, CA Dave Hall top fuel
Dave Hall top fuel Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,363 Cotati, CA	Put it at 34 degrees. Sure sounds like firing order if you've checked all of the above and it's coil farting through the intake or exhaust...

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502458 05/30/18 11:17 PM 05/30/18 11:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 1,096 Australia O ozymaxwedge super stock
ozymaxwedge super stock O Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 1,096 Australia	Nothing to add on what these guys have said but Im interested to hear the problem. 1963 Plymouth Max Wedge 1971 Barracuda

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502463 05/30/18 11:24 PM 05/30/18 11:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	What ignition are you using? Any retard programs in use? Ign boxes don't last forever,,,don't ask how I know,,,,,,, HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502468 05/30/18 11:29 PM 05/30/18 11:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI T TRENDZ master
TRENDZ master T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,540 Milwaukee WI	Check your plugs. Check your lash. You have raw fuel in the exhaust. Plugs should show you where it’s coming from. "use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: TRENDZ] #2502489 05/31/18 12:11 AM 05/31/18 12:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	When you started this whole job what were you doing on the car

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502516 05/31/18 01:12 AM 05/31/18 01:12 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,551 baldwinsville new york A a493demon pro stock
a493demon pro stock A Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,551 baldwinsville new york	I'm assume your changing the timing at the trigger and not at dist. ?

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: a493demon] #2502533 05/31/18 01:51 AM 05/31/18 01:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,644 North Carolina sasquatch master
sasquatch master Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,644 North Carolina	Check the cap and rotor, What cubic inch and compression? www.mopartsracing.com

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502558 05/31/18 06:51 AM 05/31/18 06:51 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	All I was doing where the port work to head and intake. I did replace the front seal. This is a 500” 11.1 motor with -1s ...

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2502563 05/31/18 07:29 AM 05/31/18 07:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Sounds to me like sticking needle and seat in the carb 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503412 06/02/18 12:16 AM 06/02/18 12:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Well I went though everything that I can with it , my next step is to replace the box . I have no idea what’s going on. It pops through the headers but then sometimes through the intake . Like that timing is out of wack . But I check double check and triple checked . Even pulled the wire for the tack nothing .. I’m about to give up...😡

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503426 06/02/18 01:09 AM 06/02/18 01:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 660 River Falls, WI urdustd mopar
urdustd mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 660 River Falls, WI	How old is your fuel?

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503432 06/02/18 01:25 AM 06/02/18 01:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 580 Livermore, CA D Dduster mopar
Dduster mopar D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 580 Livermore, CA	Is this the 1st time using the crank trigger? If yes,... Did You lock out the spring advance feature of the distributor?

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503446 06/02/18 02:02 AM 06/02/18 02:02 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA	There are only a few things that can make your motor do what it is doing, blown head gaskets is one, bad distributor cap is another, bad spark plug wires, vacuum leak is another and so on. I would start with the basics first, compression test, infra red temp gun on the headers after driving it, look very closely inside the distributor cap and so on, one thing at a time Please let us know what you find out Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: urdustd] #2503501 06/02/18 10:11 AM 06/02/18 10:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Fuel is about a year old, head gaskets are new, I was going to change the msd out but I was thinking fuel too. Maybe I’ll try that first since it’s Easy.

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503511 06/02/18 11:10 AM 06/02/18 11:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,831 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,831 MI, usa	I run year old fuel at the start of every season, no issues. Car made it's best pass ever. -1 timing anywhere from 26-34 never a misfire. Like stated, cap, wires, dist timing locked, header leak. Doug

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503518 06/02/18 11:24 AM 06/02/18 11:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina sgcuda master
sgcuda master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina	How did you phase the distributor? I like to drill a 3/8" hole in line with #1 in an old distributor cap and put a timing light on it to check rotor/plug wire alignment. Do you have a 4/7 swap cam and forgot about it when you reran the plug wires? Did you verify TDC timing marks before you started all of this? [image][/image]

Re: Timing issue or ?????? [Re: 70dusterjohn] #2503572 06/02/18 01:35 PM 06/02/18 01:35 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Check to make sure the little carbon button is inside your distributor cap...It's easy to miss. DAMHIK. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

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