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Re: Engine oil
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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02/16/18 02:56 PM
02/16/18 02:56 PM
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joshking440
Lunch is on me!
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Lunch is on me!
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Indy
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Brad Penn for the bracket cars and street cars for me. The Heads up car uses Driven, by Joe Gibbs. Did you know its now Driven - by Comp Cams...
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/17/18 04:06 PM
02/17/18 04:06 PM
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Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction
@#$%&*!
New user name, Same old jerk!
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New user name, Same old jerk!
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,131
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It seems not to long ago there was a topic on this. I have used the search but can not seem to find it. People were telling about what they ran. I have a 440 blown engine and run solid lifters usually with additive. Just wondering what is good to use. Uncle needs to know for his car also he just got.
Thanks
Todd You didn't say whether either engine has a flat-tappet cam and that's very important. This thread like others before it has lots of people stating their favorite oil without saying they're using a roller cam. Unless someone states that the oil they recommend was used with a flat tappet cam assume it wasn't. Be very careful with the Valvoline oils. You'll find lots of posts saying they use "VR-1" but Valvoline puts VR-1 on the label of just about everything they make. I'm pretty sure the marketing wanks at valvoline wear VR-1 underwear at all times. If you want to run your flat tappet cam with Valvoline oil be sure to get the RACING version.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/17/18 10:17 PM
02/17/18 10:17 PM
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Posts: 12 Illinois, USA
Blackbird1
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I now run JR1 Racing Oil JR 4.0 5/20W full synthetic. I began running it in my 5.7l G3 Hemi super stocker and then ‘snuck’ up on running it in my supercharged 354 stocker motor.
I have run many oils over my 37 years in all my various Mopar based race engines and sometimes wondered if there was a big difference as long as you stuck with a top quality synthetic with decent additives. In the case of this JR1, it consistently made 7-12 HP more on dyno pulls across the power band and after having made more than 20 passes with the supercharged 354, BES tore the motor down and called me to say I was lying ... it didn’t look Iike I’d made more than a couple passes. It’s good stuff and the cheapest horsepower I’ve found yet.
Last edited by Blackbird1; 02/17/18 10:40 PM.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: mopar dave]
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02/18/18 01:35 AM
02/18/18 01:35 AM
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Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually
BradH
Taking time off to work on my car
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Taking time off to work on my car
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I agree, i use to run a roller cam in the 408 and i think most oil brands would work just find in that app. I don't, unless you are talking about an OEM hydraulic roller. A stout solid roller still needs a better oil than typical passenger car stuff. Others won't agree with me, but they're not paying for my engines, either.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: BradH]
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02/18/18 01:41 AM
02/18/18 01:41 AM
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pittsburghracer
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Is this post still going. It must be a slippery subject
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/18/18 02:49 AM
02/18/18 02:49 AM
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polyspheric
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The 1st number is what you get when you start the car, it contributes to cranking speed. It's not relevant if you live on Mercury or Venus, otherwise I'm guessing that your air temperature is below 180 degrees. A missing (no ?W) or high 1st number (20W & up) is inverse to how many seconds it takes before the last bearing gets oil. Fewer seconds is better. If you use "straight" 30 weight (W is winter, not weight) I suggest you follow the procedure they used in 1916 aircraft: heat the oil over a stove, and add it to the engine just before you start it. Really modern engines can live with 0W and 5W, we can't. Don't.
Over the decades, many smart people (Norton Player team, Gene Berg) re-discovered than running asphalt in the pan breaks things faster than the original viscosity.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: @#$%&*!]
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02/18/18 06:39 AM
02/18/18 06:39 AM
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62SAVOY
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It seems not to long ago there was a topic on this. I have used the search but can not seem to find it. People were telling about what they ran. I have a 440 blown engine and run solid lifters usually with additive. Just wondering what is good to use. Uncle needs to know for his car also he just got.
Thanks
Todd You didn't say whether either engine has a flat-tappet cam and that's very important. This thread like others before it has lots of people stating their favorite oil without saying they're using a roller cam. Unless someone states that the oil they recommend was used with a flat tappet cam assume it wasn't. Be very careful with the Valvoline oils. You'll find lots of posts saying they use "VR-1" but Valvoline puts VR-1 on the label of just about everything they make. I'm pretty sure the marketing wanks at valvoline wear VR-1 underwear at all times. If you want to run your flat tappet cam with Valvoline oil be sure to get the RACING version. Car is solid flat tappet lifters.
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